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doctoral student (P185)

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Kept. From the discussion it seems clear that while the data is redundant, the inverse is still important for uses of the data. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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Generally too many. Inverse should be sufficient --- Jura 17:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Keep because it appears in infobox templates. Sensitivedonkey (talk) 07:32, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep: useful IMHO. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 18:03, 12 July 2019 (UTC).  Delete: in reflection, could probably be replaced by doctoral student (P185). Nomen ad hoc (talk) 11:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC).

  You are suggesting to replace doctoral student (P185) with doctoral student (P185)? Haansn08 (talk) 06:06, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

•  Delete: redundant with doctoral advisor (P184). Ghouston (talk) 21:33, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
• ? doctoral advisor (P184) for 'teacher', doctoral student (P185) for 'student'. What proposed mechanism of replacement in templates? --Dim Grits (talk) 12:12, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

• I voted delete because I don't like redundancy in databases. But you are right, if it's used in templates then there's no proper mechanism for obtaining inverse properties. It's a technical flaw and the inverse properties may be needed. I'd have to look at it in more detail before voting. Ghouston (talk) 22:43, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Keep Because pair p184-p185 oldest and specialized than universal student (P802), student of (P1066). @@Deryck Chan: It's clear for me (and You). I asked about mechanism of merging. And seeing propose souris + suricate now. For why? Because they Tetrapoda :) --Dim Grits (talk) 15:05, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Delete: redundant with doctoral advisor (P184). Moreover, "student" word does not make understand that the activity of a PhD is the one of a researcher, "PhD candidate" would have been more convenient --Lupin~frwiki (talk) 11:50, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Delete: It is true. Redundant with doctoral advisor (P184). --İncelemeelemani (talk) 19:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Delete - redundant with doctoral advisor (P184). Many-to-one database relationships should be one-directional in Wikidata. Kaldari (talk) 15:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
•  Keep @Kaldari, İncelemeelemani, Lupin~frwiki, Ghouston: it isn't redundant, it is an opposition to that item. As Dim Grits said, doctoral advisor (P184) is for "teacher", but doctoral student (P185) is for student! Sincerely, Nadzik (talk) 13:30, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Nadzik: Of course they mean different things, that's obvious. I meant that it's a redundant database relationship. As an analogy, we don't list all the species that fall under a genus item in Wikidata, instead we list the genus from the species item. Many-to-one database relationships should be one-directional in Wikidata. Kaldari (talk) 16:01, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
    •  Comment this may also sometimes be a many-to-many relationship as one student can have multiple advisors. --Hannes Röst (talk) 01:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Nadzik, Dim Grits:: I realize I did not gave the international references on which I based my point, thank you for making me remind this: doctoral advisor (P184) and doctoral student (P185) do not designate the usual context of professor (or teacher) and student, since "PhD candidates are persons professionally engaged in R&D" (researchers) as stated in the Euraxess Charter & Code principles (https://euraxess.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/am509774cee_en_e4.pdf page 28-29). They details "The term Early-Stage Researcher 19 refers to researchers in the first four years (full-time equivalent) of their research activity, including the period of research training". This doc is endorsed by a lot of famous institutions and countries (see https://euraxess.ec.europa.eu/jobs/charter/declaration-endorsement).

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Ping Danrok, Zolo. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 07:26, 14 July 2019 (UTC).

Also @Dim Grits, Hannolans, İncelemeelemani, Emptyfear, AttoRenato:@Lupin~frwiki, Mormegil, Rooiratel, Dumbassman: Those who recently edited this property. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Also @Cgolds: who opened a related discussion on French Bistro, and who just suggested only keeping student (P802). Nomen ad hoc (talk) 06:46, 17 July 2019 (UTC).

•  Keep. Infoboxes about professors often include a short list of prominent doctoral students. The inverse may be sufficient to generate a list of all students who have their own Wikidata items, but this property allows further curation of who are the most important students using ranks. @Lupin~frwiki: "PhD candidate" and "doctoral student" have different boundaries (other kinds of doctorate are not included) and different universities use different names, so I wouldn't advise rescoping the property.
  • Ok, I understand. So you would use this property for medicine doctorate for instance, I understand. Then "doctoral candidate" could then be much more convenient than "doctoral student". Do you agree? --Lupin~frwiki (talk) 14:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Probably not physician (Q39631), but likely to include other kinds of doctorates conferred after academic study: Doctor of Education (Q837184), Doctor of Engineering (Q17119067), Doctor of Laws (Q959320) and the University of Oxford which call their doctors of philosophy "DPhil" rather than "PhD". Deryck Chan (talk) 15:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
      • If I formulate it differently, you argue that doctoral "student" would be more convenient to use for medicine doctor candidate than doctoral candidate which should be used for research doctor candidate. I understand that either the difference between both people is notable and we should classify medicine doctors as students with field medicine or it is not and we should consider them as candidates.Lupin~frwiki (talk) 11:05, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
        • Yes, that's right. Deryck Chan (talk) 10:42, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

@Dim Grits: I think doctoral student (P185), doctoral advisor (P184) serve a different purpose from student (P802), student of (P1066). These two SPARQL queries [1][2] show editors have found uses in over 1000 biographical items where distinguishing between doctoral student-teacher relationships and other student-teacher relationships has been helpful. Deryck Chan (talk) 17:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Comment A big problem imho that also concerns student (P802) has been to establish an inverse property constraint. The property would be totally valid as a way to store the main students or Phd candidates of a teacher. Currently most of the student of (P1066)/doctoral advisor (P184) relationships that I have filled during the past years have been also reversed (either by bot or by well-meaning users attempting to "correct" an apparent error) making the student (P802)/doctoral student (P185) information meaningless. I would agree to keep this property along with student (P802) if the constraint is entirely lifted. Alexander Doria (talk) 18:40, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @Alexander Doria: I tend to agree that student of (P1066) and student (P802) should be inverse properties. Importance can be marked using rank, rather than removing unimportant (but truthful) entries. Deryck Chan (talk) 15:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Agree too. Only mentioning "notable" students is IMHO too arbitrary... especially if "notability" isn't properly defined. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 15:38, 19 July 2019 (UTC).
    • Agree tooLupin~frwiki (talk) 11:05, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Consistency can be assured but some work is needed. We can get the same information without this property. Use this kind of property to distinguish some items of the set does not seem a good idea since the choice of each item can be discussed and different in every country, field, etc. This selection should be let to each wikipedia page imho. --Lupin~frwiki (talk) 14:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
• Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:22, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Delete A Wikipedia that only wants notable students via reverse lookup can simply only display students for which they have an article. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @ChristianKl: Reverse lookup is hideously difficult in Lua... It's better to have a property to curate a list of notable students separately. Many infoboxes (e.g. w:en:Template:Infobox academic) include a "notable students" field, which if implemented using Wikidata should be P185 with preferred rank. Deryck Chan (talk) 10:42, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
•  Keep People that consider it is redundant with doctoral advisor (P184), may be doesn't know that is impossible to get information via backlinks from LUA module and, of course, from infoboxes and any kind of wiki templates. SPARQL is a partial solutions for the real uses of WD, nowadays. If I'm wrong and somebody has a solutions to make some kind of haswbstatement from wiki templates or LUA Modules, please just tell me. Thanks. Amadalvarez (talk) 16:16, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Listeria can provide you with such lists. --- Jura 17:21, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

 Comment Not within a Infobox or any other template. Listeria must be applied article by article because it contains (written inside the SPARQL code) the specific Qid related with a specific item. So, it can't be used in a template that act with the Qid of the present article. Amadalvarez (talk) 17:31, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

@Amadalvarez: Shouldn't you change your second {{Keep}} to {{Comment}} or other suitable template, to avoid "multiple voting" problems? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:35, 20 November 2019 (UTC).  Done, excuse me.Amadalvarez (talk) 15:55, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

•  Delete Redundant inverse. --Yair rand (talk) 19:46, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
•  Neutral to  Keep As mentioned in the P802 deletion discussion below, I'm not so sure the breakage of "inverse" is a good idea based on any of the comments shared above. It was introduced once and I have a feeling it would be reintroduced. If the problem is that doctoral student (P185) is overused, relevance should be enforced harder. On the other hand, I think student (P802) is a better property for "famous apprentice". Jagulin (talk) 17:00, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • doctoral student (P185) is not overused. It's just defined as an inverse of its inverse. --- Jura 17:21, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
•  Keep At least on zhwiki, the Listeria datas can't work well, it only pollutes with English-only text, and has no easy way to translate. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
•  Delete or change to something more specific. Infoboxes don't show all doctoral students, do they? Michael FV (talk) 03:07, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
•  Keep At least in Vietnamese, you really can't make confusions between nghiên cứu sinh (doctoral student) and cố vấn tiến sĩ (doctoral advisor). By following these vote-deleters' comments, it looks like some users are misleaded by their wrong translations of P184 and P185, a translation review is needed, note that I've corrected the Vietnamese translations. --117.136.54.109 22:43, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
  • I don't think the people who are saying they are redundant think they are the same thing. They are saying that the two-way database relationship is redundant. Kaldari (talk) 17:37, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
•  Keep: useful IMHO.--Cbyd (talk) 20:55, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Keep Has language conflicts. --111.32.68.231 02:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
  • This could be an additional argument for deletion. --- Jura 10:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

•  Comment please note that for many Wikipedias it would more useful to list noteable students and postdoctoral researchers, therefore for articles about a professor it would be important to have a list of all personnel that s/he advised (students, postdocs, research associates etc). Some students switch fields after their PhD and their postdoc advisor is much more important for their career than their PhD advisor (at least in my field where long postdocs are common). Therefore it may make sense to change the categories to a advisor/advisee relationship that is more broad than doctoral student/advisor only. --Hannes Röst (talk) 01:33, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @Hannes Röst: this is merely for "doctoral students". The inverse will still be available at "doctoral advisor" Property:P184. Correct referencing is probably more easily done on the later. --- Jura 10:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

•  Keep - I can not see any cause for a deletion. Ofcourse such relationships are two-way-relationships. This must be always and in every data set. Either what we're doing here is serious work or not. If so - then it has to stay. If not, we can stop the whole Wikidata project. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:16, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @Marcus Cyron: Why would we need to repeat the inverses of thousands of "doctoral advisor" Property:P184 statements? This doesn't seem to be serious. --- Jura 10:03, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
    • @Jura1: - we do this in a lot of other cases too. You always need also the inverse data. How should you know about it, if you can't see it? We talk about seeing and reading, not about a querry request! -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 11:36, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
      • @Marcus Cyron: frequently we don't do this when there are 1-to-many relations. Some people are even reluctant to do it when it's a 1-1 relation (or 1 to few). I'm not really sure where one would want to read the list at Q982962#P185. How would you go about it? Where would you read it? I think one would generally query the underlying data. --- Jura 16:05, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

•  Keep - Useful relation. Slightly different semantics between "is/was-student-of" and "has/had-doctoral-student". In an ideal world this would be a bidirectual-many-to-many-relation. In script reality this relation seems useful. Praxis example for usefulness (use-case): "Mathematics Genealogy Project", NDSU + Am.Math.Soc. This is what Wikipedia should have for every academic profession. Best, --Christianvater (talk) 12:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @Christianvater: The inverse is "doctoral advisor" Property:P184. That usecase is still covered. --- Jura 10:03, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
•  Keep Used by 35+ templates, clearly has user-case.--Jklamo (talk) 15:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep, an important property for science.--Arbnos (talk) 14:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep--Ferran Mir (talk) 07:45, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep There are both doctoral advisors (typically professor or adjunct professor/docent) and doctoral students. Kindly note that in many fields doctoral students are not Ph.D. students, as the title awarded is not Ph.D. but e.g. Ed.D., Psy.D., Mus.D., LL.D., Eng.D., etc. --Paju~wikidatawiki (talk) 00:06, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep See my above comment at #demonym (P1549), or find a solution that covers usage on other projects like Wikipedia, namely templates and modules. --Amitie 10g (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
•  Delete, a redundant inverse property, often causing bloat to an entry unnecessarily. A better approach would be to press developers to improve access to backlinks. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep Reverse/backlink/Listeria does not work within a Infobox or any other template. --Luamssuk (talk) 15:15, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Translation issues?!

@Kaldari: If the problem 117.136.54.109 pointed is correct, I believe that there can in fact result some users to wrongly daydream that two properties are having same meanings in their L1(or L2?)-speaking languages, and say that "X can be simply replaced by Y" even incorrect. as of 10:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC) the translations are:

lang	P184	P185	P802	P1066
af	Doktorale student	Doktorale adviseur	student	student van
aln	student i doktoraturës	N/A	N/A	N/A
ar	طلاب الدكتوراه	مشرف الدكتوراه	طلاب	تتلمذ على يد تتلمذ على يد, تعلم لدى, تتلمذ على, تتلمذت على يد
ast	N/A	direutor de tesis direutora de tesis	estudiante discípulu, discípula, alumnu, alumna, maestru de, maestra de, profesor de, profesora de	N/A
az	N/A	elmi rəhbəri	tələbəsi tələbə, tələbələr, tələbələri	müəllimi
ba	аспиранттар	ғилми етәксе	уҡыусылар уҡыусы, студент, студенттар	кемдә уҡыған уҡытыусы, уҡытыусылар
be	аспіранты / дактаранты аспіранты, дактаранты, кіраўнік у	навуковы кіраўнік	вучні вучань, студэнт	студэнт каго Навуковы кіраўнік, настаўнік, уплыў
be-tarask	асьпірант	навуковы кіраўнік кіраўнік	вучаньстудэнты, вучні, студэнт	чый студэнт
bg	аспирант докторант	научен ръководител	студент	ученик на
bn	N/A	N/A	ছাত্র	শিক্ষক
br	N/A	rener-tezenn	N/A	bet studier
bs	doktorant	savjetnik za izradu doktorata	student-asistent	student
ca	estudiant doctoral	director de tesi director doctoral, supervisor doctoral	estudiant alumne, mestre de, deixeble	mestre alumne/a de, professor
cs	doktorand	vedoucí disertační práce vedoucí práce, učitel	student učitelem (koho), učitelkou (koho), studenti	učitel učitelé, žákem (koho), student (koho)
cy	myfyriwr doethurol myfyrwraig ddoethurol	ymgynghorydd y doethor	disgybl myfyrwraig, myfyriwr	disgybl y canlynol ahro, darlithydd, arwr
da	doktoratsstuderende	doktoratsrådgiver	elev studerende, student	elev af lærer, underviser, porfessor, mentor, mester
de	Doktorand Doktoranden, Promovend, Promovendin, Doktorandin	Promotionsbetreuer Doktorvater, Gutachter, Doktormutter	Schüler Student	Schüler von Lehrer
el	διδακτορικός φοιτητής	διδακτορικός σύμβουλος	内容单元格	内容单元格
en	doctoral student supervise	doctoral advisor advisor, doctoral supervisor, supervisor, PhD advisor, promotor	student students, teacher of, pupil, pupils, disciple, disciples, teacher to	student of teacher, professor, pupil of, supervisor, academic supervisor, disciple of, studied under, master, mentor, advisor, tutor
en-ca	N/A	N/A	内容单元格	student of
en-gb	doctoral student	doctoral supervisor	student students, teacher of, pupil, pupils, disciple, disciples	student of teacher, professor, pupil of, supervisor, academic supervisor, disciple of, studied under, master, mentor, advisor, tutor
eo	doktorigito	doktoriginto	studento(j)	studento de
es	doctorando estudiante doctoral	supervisor doctoral directora de tesis, director de tesis, asesora doctoral, supervisora doctoral, asesor doctoral	discípulo discípula, pupilo, pupila, alumno, alumna, aprendiz	alumno de estudiante de, discípulo de, profesor, supervisor, mentor, tutor, aprendiz de
et	N/A	doktoritöö juhendaja	õpilased	on (oli) ... õpilane
eu	doktorego ikaslea	tesi zuzendaria	ikaslea	honen ikaslea irakasle
fa	دانشجوی دکتری	استاد راهنمای تز دکترا	شاگردان	از دانشجویانِ
fi	tohtoriopiskelija	väitöstyön ohjaaja ohjaava professori	oppilas	oppilaana opettaja, mestari, mentori, ohjaaja
fr	doctorant étudiant de thèse	directeur de thèse directrice de thèse, responsable de thèse, thèse	élève étudiant, maître de, professeur de, élève, disciple, apprenti	élève de professeur, enseignant, étudiant chez, apprenti de, maître
frr	N/A	N/A	student	student faan
ga	N/A	comhairleoir dochtúireachta stiúrthóir dochtúireachta	mac/iníon léinn	mac/iníon léinn de chuid
gl	doutorando doutoranda, doutorandos, doutorandas, estudante de doutoramento, estudantes de doutoramento	director de tese directora de tese	docente de	alumno de
gu	N/A	N/A	વિદ્યાર્થી	આ વ્યક્તિનો વિદ્યાર્થી
ha	N/A	N/A	dalibi	N/A
he	מונחה לדוקטורט דוקטורנט	מנחה לדוקטורט	תלמיד תלמידה, תלמידים	תלמיד של תלמידה של
hr	student na doktoratu	mentor na doktoratu	student	内容单元格
hsb	N/A	N/A	šuler student, šulerjo, studenća	N/A
hu	doktorandusz	témavezető	tanítvány diákjai, diák	tanár tanítványa neki, professzor
hy	ասպիրանտներ / դոկտորանտներ	գիտական ղեկավար	աշակերտներ	աշակերտել է ուսուցիչ
ia	doctorando	director de these	N/A	N/A
id	murid doktoral	penasihat doktoral	murid	murid dari
ilo	doktoral nga estudiante	doktoral a nagbalbalakad	N/A	N/A
is	doktorsnemi	doktorsleiðbeinandi	N/A	N/A
it	studente di dottorato ha supervisionato, ha studente di dottorato, è stato supervisore di dottorato di	direttore di tesi ha avuto come direttore di tesi, è stato supervisionato da	studente discepolo, allievo, scolaro, maestro di, insegnante di, docente di, studenti, discepoli, allievi, scolari	studente di allievo di, discepolo di, scolaro di
ja	博士課程指導学生 博士課程指導学生, 指導学生	博士論文指導教授 指導教員, 博士課程指導教授, 博士論文指導教授, 指導教授	弟子 教え子, 門下生	師匠 恩師, 教師
ka	დოქტორანტი	სამეცნიერო ხელმძღვანელი	სტუდენტი სტუდენტები	ვისი მოსწავლე
kn	N/A	N/A	ವಿದ್ಯಾರ್ಥಿ	N/A
ko	다음 박사과정 학생들을 지도함 박사과정, 박사과정학생, 지도 중인 박사과정, 지도했던 박사과정, 지도 중인 박사과정 학생, 지도했던 박사과정 학생, 지도 중인 박사과정학생, 지도 학생, 지도학생, 박사과정 학생, 이 교수가 지도해 준 박사과정 학생들, 이 교수가 지도해 준 박사과정 학생, 다음 박사과정 학생을 지도함, 다음 학생을 지도함, 이 교수가 지도해 준 학생들, 이 교수가 지도해 준 학생	박사과정 당시 지도교수 박사논문 지도교수, 지도 교수, 지도교수, 논문지도교수, 논문 지도교수, 박사과정 지도교수, 박사과정시절 지도교수, 박사과정 학생 시절 지도교수, 박사과정 학생시절 지도교수, 박사과정 시절 지도교수	다음의 스승이었음 학생들, 학생, 제자들, 다음을 제자로 두었음, 다음의 스승이었음, 제자, 다음의 선생이었음, 다음의 스승임, 다음의 선생임, 다음의 스승, 다음의 선생, 다음의 선생님임, 다음의 선생님	다음의 제자였음 선생, 교수, 지도교수, 지도 교수, 담임, 담임 교사, 담임교사, 담임선생, 다음의 제자임, 다음 교수의 제자임, 다음 선생의 제자임, 다음 교사의 제자임, 다음의 학생이었음, 스승, 스승들, 선생님, 선생님들, 선생들, 다음의 학생임, 다음의 제자, 다음의 학생
ksh	Dokterant Doktorand	Doktervatter	N/A	N/A
ku (include variants)	N/A	N/A	xwendekar	xwendekarê
la	N/A	N/A	discipulus	praeceptor
lb	N/A	Dokterpapp Doktermamm	Schüler	Schüler vu(n)
lfn	N/A	N/A	studiante	N/A
lt	N/A	N/A	studentas	yra mokinys mokytojas
lv	N/A	N/A	studenti skolēni	N/A
mg	N/A	mpitondra tezy	N/A	N/A
mk	докторски аспирант	докторски ментор	ученик	учел кај
ml	N/A	N/A	വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥി	N/A
mr	N/A	N/A	विद्यार्थी	चा विद्यार्थी शिक्षक, प्रोफेसर, लेक्चरर, चा शिष्य, मास्तर
ms	anak didik kedoktoran	penasihat kedoktoran	pelajar murid, anak didikan, mendidik, membimbing, mengajar, guru kepada, cikgu kepada, pendidik kepada, pembimbing kepada, pengajar kepada	N/A
nb	doktorgradsstudent	doktorgradsveileder	elev student	elev av mentor, læremester, studerte under
nds	N/A	Doktervader	N/A	Schöler von
nl	promovendus	promotor	student leerling, leraar van	student van leerling van, leermeester, leraar
nn	doktogradsstudent	doktorgradsrettleiar	N/A	elev av
nqo	N/A	ߞߎߡߘߊߞߎ߲ (ߕߍߛ) ߗߋߕߌ߮	N/A	N/A
oc	estudiant de tèsi	director de tèsi	N/A	N/A
or	N/A	N/A	ଛାତ୍ର	N/A
pl	doktorant nadzorowani studenci	promotor doktoratu promotor, promotor doktorski	student uczeń	uczył się u studiował u, uczyła się u, studiowała u
pt	doutorando	orientador de doutoramento	estudante aluno	estudante de aluno de
pt-br	doutorando	orientador de doutorado	N/A	estudante de aluno de
ro	studenți la doctorat conducător de doctorat pentru, conducător de doctorat al, doctoranți	conducător de doctorat conducătorul doctoratului	studenți profesor pentru, profesor al, discipol, elev, elevi, discipoli, student	elev al profesor, învățător, discipol al, școlit de, învățat de, student al, școlită de, învățată de, studentă a, elevă a
ru	аспиранты / докторанты руководитель у, аспиранты, докторанты	научный руководитель научрук, руководитель	ученики ученик, ученица, студент, студентка, студенты	обучался у чей студент, ученик кого, учитель, учился у, студент кого, был учеником, проходил обучение у, учителя
sa	N/A	N/A	N/A	अस्य शिश्यः अध्यापकः, गुरुः, आचार्यस्य छात्रः
scn	studenti di dutturatu	rilaturi dâ tesi di dutturatu	studenti	studenti di prufissuri, maistru, nsignanti
sco	doctoral student	doctoral advisor	student	student o
sd	N/A	N/A	شاگرد	N/A
se	N/A	N/A	studeanta oahppi, stuđeanta	N/A
sl	doktorski študenti doktoranti	doktorski mentor doktorski profesor	študenti učenci, učil	učenec od
smn	N/A	N/A	uáppee	N/A
sms	N/A	N/A	mättʼtõõtti	N/A
sq	student i doktoraturës	këshilltar të doktoraturës mbikëqyrësi i doktoraturës	N/A	student i
sr (include variants)	студент на докторском раду	ментор на докторском раду	студент/student	студент код/student kod
sv	doktorand	handledare	student	student till
ta	முனைவர் பட்ட மாணவர்	முனைவர் பட்ட ஆலோசகர்	மாணவர்கள்	N/A
te	N/A	N/A	విద్యార్థి విద్యార్ధులు	ఎవరి విద్యార్థి
tg	N/A	N/A	шогирдон	аз донишҷӯёни
th	N/A	N/A	ศิษย์ ลูกศิษย์, นักเรียน, นักศึกษา	N/A
tr	doktora öğrencisi	doktora danışmanı danışman, doktora sorumlusu, sorumlu	öğrenci	kimin öğrencisi
ts	xichudeni xa tidyondzo tavudokodela	mutsundzuxi wa nkanelo ya tidyondzo talehenhla mutsundzuxi	muchudeni machudeni	xichudeni xa
tt (include variants)	N/A	фәнни җитәкче	шәкертләр	N/A
uk	аспіранти / докторанти здобувач ступеня	науковий керівник	відомі учні учень, учні, студент, студенти, вчитель (для кого:)	навчався в вихователь, керівник, ментор, професор, учитель, навчався в, навчалася в, був студентом, була студентом, був учнем, була учнем
ur	ڈاکٹورل شاگرد	ڈاکٹورل مشیر	شاگرد طالب علم	استاد
vi	nghiên cứu sinh giám sát	cố vấn tiến sĩ cố vấn, giám sát tiến sĩ, giám sát viên, Cố vấn tiến sĩ, người ủng hộ	sinh viên giáo viên của, học sinh, đệ tử	sinh viên của giáo viên, Giáo sư, học trò của, giám sát viên, giám sát học tập, đệ tử của, học theo, bậc thầy, người hướng dẫn, cố vấn, gia sư
yi	דאקטאראנט	דאקטאראט-מענטאר	תלמיד	N/A
yo	N/A	N/A	akẹ́ẹ̀kọ́	akẹ́ẹ̀kọ́ ti ọ̀gá akẹ́ẹ̀kọ́
yue	N/A	博士導師	學生	老師 師傅
zh (include variants)	博士生 学习指导/學習指導	博士生导师/博士生導師 导师/導師, 顾问/顧問, 博士生顾问/博士生顧問	學生/学生 徒弟, 弟子, 门徒, 門徒	老師/老师 师傅/師傅, 師/师, 导师/導師, 教师/教師

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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