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Vandalism

thank to block this ip : 114.183.56.228 to he find his talk page Tuilindo (talk) 12:25, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

It seems that it stops. I think there is no need to be blocked.--Nikosguard talk 10:35, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
No, 114.183.56.228 don't stop. Just for exemple : label for Teutsch (Q1318812) (modified by 114.183.56.228 on 30 October 2014) should be Teutsch with surname/nom de famille/cognome... in description Tuilindo (talk) 11:07, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
  Done--Nikosguard talk 11:47, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
This is SU, who is active on this site every day. --Haplology (talk) 03:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

protected edit request

We have a protected edit request for the Biebs. --Haplology (talk) 03:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Something's not right. It's only semi, but I can't edit it. --AmaryllisGardener talk 03:59, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Done, I hadn't any problems. --Stryn (talk) 06:09, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Undelete Q5074463

Please restore Q5074463. Invalid merge. --JulesWinnfield-hu (talk) 08:37, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done--Zolo (talk) 08:50, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. --JulesWinnfield-hu (talk) 08:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

edit request

Please add link cdo:Adolf Hitler in Q352. thank you.--唐吉訶德的侍從 (talk) 08:43, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done --Pasleim (talk) 08:50, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you!--唐吉訶德的侍從 (talk) 13:59, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Wrongly deleted items?

Can an admin please check Wat Don Makok (Q18390138) and Wat Nong Mongkhon (Q18342427)? They were deleted as being empty, but they still show up in the resonator page for Category:Buddhist temples in Prachuap Khiri Khan (Q10137985) - but that would mean they were not empty, but contained at least the two statements for their location and their instance type. I did add a lot of items for newly created articles on the Thai Wikipedia and filled them with statements as they are notable enough, so I wonder why such an item gets deleted only because the article on the Thai Wikipedia gets deleted for other reasons. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 08:48, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Restored both. Nikosguard talk 06:38, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. How to prevent this from happening in future? They were really wrongly deleted as they are not empty at all - it was pure fluke that I noticed them in resonator, otherwise these valid items would be lost and the work to fill in the statements would have be in vain. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 09:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Try adding links to the item on other items, so it will be getting incoming links. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 11:45, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
They had a link to Wikipedia, however the page was deleted. Shouldn't admins know that items with several statements need much more thought to delete than the empty ones on User:Pasleim/notability?. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 13:29, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Sjoerddebruin meant links from within Wikidata. There are hundreds of items deleted every day, it's impossible to create a failsafe system who prevents admins from making mistakes. Since looking for internal links is one of the basic things to look for as an admin, it's a good way to create such to prevent it from happen again. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 15:24, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism: Chtec

[1] --Grebenkov (talk) 20:33, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

I warned the user. Regards, --Stryn (talk) 20:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Please undelete Q16727222

It seems that this item was wrongly merged with Q598575. Subj included the article about two stations while Q598575 is about one of them. So please undelete subj--Michgrig (talk) 19:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done Rzuwig► 22:06, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Undelete Q5091784

Please restore Q5091784. Invalid merge. --JulesWinnfield-hu (talk) 16:00, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done --Pasleim (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Merge was valid, 2 items merged in the item with the lowest QID. If you undone my action, then delete second item (Q2539922). It's no reason to keep empty item. (more details: Even on rowiki we will not have an article about this village. Articles about village and about commune was merged in one single page because commune is formed from a single one village.) --XXN (talk) 16:53, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Most communes in Romania are formed by multiple villages. For data consistency it makes therefore sense to have always a separate item for village and commune. Moreover, village and commune have different SIRUTA code which is difficult to present in a single item. --Pasleim (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

User:Reinheitsgebot

Hi, please block User:Reinheitsgebot. Magnus bot is adding families to species as parent taxon (P171). Thats wrong and not helpfull. parent taxon (P171) of a species is a genus. --Succu (talk) 16:27, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Stopped now. --Magnus Manske (talk) 16:42, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! --Succu (talk) 16:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

GerardM's errors are seriously undermining Wikidata credibility

Today at cs.wiki we decided to shut down taking P27 property from Wikidata due to numerous errors produced by GerardM's scripts. Albeit the erroneous claims aren't new, they are still numerous and uncorrected. We are now considering to take sourced items only (if possible).

I'am aware about this ANI discussion, which ended rather unconvincingly.

I would like to know if something was done since:

  1. Did GerardM develop/incorporated some protocols to reduce the number of errors?
  2. Is he generating some backup files/dumps in order to find and fix errors when found/pointed out?
  3. Did GerardM something to find and fix his past errors?

You need to know that his errors are seriously undermining Wikidata credibility.

Many thanks. --Vachovec1 (talk) 23:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

*sigh* Again? --AmaryllisGardener talk 01:49, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
If Wikidata ever needs an Arbitration Committee, this sort of thing will be why. --Rschen7754 02:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure the Wikipedias' and other wikiprojects' users don't care if Wikidata has or has not an Arbitration Committee, but they do care if the're getting unreliable, misleading or erroneus data. Especially in properties denoting sensitive information and especially in cases of living people active in the public...--Shlomo (talk) 06:07, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
@Vachovec1:
  1. According to GerardM's own statement he stopped using at least one of the most problematic methods. And it seems to have decreased the error rate of his edits significantly. The earlier errors stay, though...
  2. He probably doesn't and if he does, he's not very helpful to use them or share them when asked to.
  3. Not in the cases I brought forward or engaged the discussion about. I can't say about all his errors though...--Shlomo (talk) 06:07, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Is there a way to add links to Wiktionary sister pages on the data entry pages?

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 03:25, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

@Cirt: see Wikidata:Wiktionary/Development/Proposals. Will be started after Wikidata:Development plan is completed.--GZWDer (talk) 05:00, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Ah okay thanks, any idea on a timeframe for that? — Cirt (talk) 20:45, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
@Cirt: Currently no. Ask @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): for further status and plan.--GZWDer (talk) 05:06, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Unless magic funding of significant size appears it'll not happen within the next year unfortunately. We need to concentrate on finishing what we already have first. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 09:13, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

recurring vandalism

Faye Wong (Q464650) has been getting vandalized every day at about the same time, mostly by the same IP (the other one is very, very close, though). Yesterday I politely asked the user for an explanation, and so far they have not replied, but they came back today to vandalize the item again. --Haplology (talk) 09:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Protected the item for a month or until the IP gives a valid reasoning. --YMS (talk) 15:25, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Assistance required

Following the discussion in Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2014/11#Problem with wikidata in greek, where it has been shown that the messages in Greek were too long, we have changed the translations at translatewiki [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. However, as the transfer from translatewiki to here might take time, I am asking you to make the same change here:

Thank you. --FocalPoint (talk) 08:57, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done Jianhui67 talk★contribs 09:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

I confirmed it worked! Many thanks. --FocalPoint (talk) 12:25, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Rezabot et al.

10.68.16.33 and 10.68.17.61, better known as Rezabot (talk • contribs • logs), have just a while ago (while nobody was watching, apparently) added thousands(?) of duplicate references. In between those edits, there is the daily assault of vandalism like this which will disappear from RecentChanges in about 12 hours and thence become extremely difficult to find. I'm sure there is more that nobody has reverted yet. Could somebody please mass-revert the contributions by these IPs, both because they're all bogus, and they have flooded RecentChanges.

Related issue number two: Rezabot has also been adding lots of qualifiers of things to themselves, for example qualifing "occupation:novelist" as "occupation:novelist" in Q5715048. I have noticed other minor mistakes too, which are not serious by themselves but confirm a certain pattern. People who are mistaken for absolute beginners should probably not be operating bots. --Haplology (talk) 04:16, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. It looks like Rezabot is fixing its mistakes. But I will keep an eye it. --Pasleim (talk) 08:41, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
BTW, does somebody has a tool to check if a certain property is used in references or qualifiers? --Pasleim (talk) 08:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Unflagged, unpatrolled bot making thousands of edits

Dɐ-Bot

The bot was asked to stop by Infovarius ~16 hours ago, but it has not. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 11:56, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done, I blocked the bot.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:19, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Edit war with User:Brya

See the discussion I tried to have on the matter here: User talk:Brya#Mango. — GPHemsley (talk) 16:39, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

@GPHemsley: you made the mistakes. And please give difflinks, if you arguing here. --Succu (talk) 16:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
There are a lot of pages and edits involved. They're the most recent history on the three pages under discussion. Can you please elaborate as to what my "mistakes" were? — GPHemsley (talk) 17:04, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
There are three items involved. You are accusing Brya of edit warring, so you should give some evidence. And you should notify Brya of this thread. --Succu (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
As far as I can see, your use of instance of (P31) and subclass of (P279) is wrong. For P31 the most generic instance should be chosen, being that the three items are about a taxon (Q16521). For taxa we have the more specific taxon rank (P105) and parent taxon (P171) to give position in the tree of life as well as the taxon one position higher. This allows us (and Wikipedia's in their taxobox) to find all higher taxa in the tree of life. Therefore P279 is really less suitable. Descriptions are not meant to be article abstracts, what you seem to make of it. My conclusion is that Brya's reverting actions were rightfully so. In addition she did a good job in explaining. -- Lymantria (talk) 18:12, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Undelete Q9788703

Please undelete Q9788703 (Coblentz, Martian crater), which has been merged erroneously into Q1082306 (Coblentz, Lunar crater). Petr Matas 05:13, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 08:11, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Undelete Q18536349

I wrongly merged the above element, see Wikidata:Project_chat#False_friend_.22pamphlet.22 and User_talk:Marcol-it#Two meanings of "pamphlet". Given the number of links involved, it's easier to restore the previous element, so that I can undo the merge there. --Marcol-it (talk) 12:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 12:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Problems with Q8069998

Hi: I cannot merge this one with Q7925581. Need help. Thanks. --Fixertool (talk) 04:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

The problem is that Category:Births in Recife (Q8069998) is linked with ru:Категория:Родившиеся в Ресифи and Category:People from Recife (Q7925581) is linked with ru:Категория:Персоналии:Ресифи. --ValterVB (talk) 08:41, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Please protect Q14204246

Please, consider to apply a protection to Wikimedia project page (Q14204246) because of repetitive vandalisms. I would suggest [Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite), since the problem comes from anonymous users and is not limited to a specific period of time. Thank you, — TintoMeches, 13:13, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

  Done as your suggestion is. --Stryn (talk) 13:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

User:Inwind‎‎

User keeps merging items about an event (murder of Kitty Genovese (Q18341392)) with a person (Kitty Genovese (Q238128)), even after being asked not to do that. Can another admin please have a look at this? Multichill (talk) 20:56, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Looking forward to the discussion. Inwind (talk) 21:14, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
@Inwind, Multichill:Zolo (talk) 10:04, 26 November 2014 (UTC), we certainly need two items (one for the murder, one for the person), but I have to agree this is a bit problematic for the sitelinks. Articles that are called "murder of Kitty Genovese" do not appear to be significantly more focused on the murder than those called simply "Kitty Genovese". Apart from renaming the Wikipedia articles, I do not see any really satisfying solution. --Zolo (talk) 10:04, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I'd recommend to look not only on the name of the Wikipedia article, but to take it's content in account as well. In this specific case I'd agree with concentrating the articles in the event item (murder of Kitty Genovese (Q18341392)), even without renaming the articles on Wikipedias (we can't force them to do it, anyway). I can't check all the articles connected with the person item, but since the person is notable only because of the event (and this fact is hardly going to change in the future), I suppose there is not and will not be any article dealing mainly with the life/work of the person and not with her murder. Of course we can keep the person data item as well, if we need it for structural purposes (e.g. to store the date/place of birth/death a.s.o.)--Shlomo (talk) 08:40, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

This is simply another incarnation of the Bonnie and Clyde problem (and a frequent one to, as esepecially the English Wikipedia prefers to have "murder of x" articles instead of "x" articles, while most others usually just have an "x" article. In my opinion, we need to have two items, because "murder of x" simply isn't a person, period. And in order to have a sane interwiki linking, Wikidata needs to properly support redirects s sitelinks, so all Wikipedias having a "murder of x" article could have an "x" redirect to that article, that could be used as a sitelink in the "x" item, and vice versa. In the wikis' "In other languages" section these redirects should be displayed maybe in italics or with an icon, so I can see "oh, if I follow that link, I won't get an article exactly on this topic, but to one that's closely related. So I likely will get the same information there, while the interwiki link presented there might not bring me to the article I originally came from.". @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE):: Are there any plans about this? --YMS (talk) 09:28, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Don't add (disambiguation) to labels

Any suggestions on how to explain it to: User talk:114.183.56.228? It's a bit tiring to clean up after this user. --- Jura 11:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

I see repeated requests and multiple blocks, but no response. I blocked the ip for a month. Let's see if that gets some attention. Feel free to unblock once you feel that the user gets it. Multichill (talk) 12:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Témplo Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)

Apreciados administradores: La pagina bajo el nombre "Témplo Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)" que estoy tratando de crear es legitimo y no entiendo por que me filtran como dañino. En los dias anteriores cree una pagina con este nombre y a sido cambiada el 31 octubre 2014 por P. S. F. Freitas, bajo el nombre de "Tupão Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)", segun su mejor criterio, haciendo una traducion literal de cada palabras, sin tener en cuenta que "Témplo Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)" es un nombre legitimo , oficial, y reconocida en el idioma guarani de la organizacion religiosa "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" en ingles, o "La Iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Últimos Días" en español. De nuestra parte pedimos consideracion antes que nada por la solicitud que hemos hechos de remonbrar "Tupão Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)" a "Témplo Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)" el cual es el nombre correcto; o que borren el nombre de la pagina "Tupão Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)" y nos permitan crear una nueva como corresponde la cual es "Témplo Paraguaýpegua (Paraguái)" Desde ya muchas gracias, esperando una respuesta favorable. Esperamos que comprenda nuestra postura sobre este asunto. Atentamente Oscarraulmedina

PD: Aqui les envio una copia del correo que les envie a P. S. F. Freitas en respuesta a la discuion "Témplo Paraguaypegua(Paraguai)":


Oscar Raul Medina 02/11/2014 Para:

"Estimado P.S.F. Freitas: Aprecio mucho su comentario en la discusion sobre el tema“Témplo Paraguaypegua(Paraguai)" de la traduccion en español “Templo de Asuncion (Paraguay); sin embargo como explique anteriormente, La Iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Ultimos Dias , organizacion religiosa a la que corresponde dicho tema lo ha traducido y lo acepta oficialnente como “Témplo" y no con otra traduccion. En este caso en particular, La Iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos De los Ultimos Dias, no solo se vale de un guarani puro, sino de una funcional, porque su intencion es que las personas que lean o escuchen sus palabras en guarani entiendan el mensaje emitido. Espero que nos comprendan; se trata de una traduccion funcional. Los membrios de la Iglesia SUD de habla guarani estan familiarizado con esta interpretacion “Témplo" y no con Tupao, Tupao guasu u otro termino. Por favor reconsideren nuestros pedidos de renombramiento que hemos solicitados. Esperamos una respuesta favorable" Atentamente Oscarraulmedina

 – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oscarraulmedina (talk • contribs) at 04:48, 3. Nov. 2014‎ (CET) (UTC).

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