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Property talk:P161

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Valentina.Anitnelav in topic Documentary and occupation

Documentation

cast member
actor in the subject production [use "character role" (P453) and/or "name of the character role" (P4633) as qualifiers] [use "voice actor" (P725) for voice-only role]
DescriptionThe individuals who performed starring roles in this film or video production. Qualify with ?? to distinguish starring or minor roles, and with character role (P453) to refer to the item representing the character, if one exists.
Representscast member (Q3297652), actor (Q33999), film actor (Q10800557), television actor (Q10798782), ballet dancer (Q805221), stage actor (Q2259451), animal actor (Q52688389), performing artist (Q713200), seiyū (Q622807), pornographic actor (Q488111), radio drama actor (Q21280562), model (Q4610556), musical theatre actor (Q1954956), actress (Q21169216), reality television participant (Q27658988), opera singer (Q2865819), drag queen (Q337084), kabuki actor (Q48146261), public figure (Q662729), pornographic actress (Q66382950)
Data typeItem
Template parameteren:Template:Infobox film (starring)
Domain
According to this template: work (Q386724): films and similar productions
According to statements in the property:
performing arts production (Q43099500), work (Q386724), performance (Q35140), cast (Q15267437), scene (Q1185607) or fictional person (Q97498056)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuespersons -- but possibly organizations or "lists of" persons
qualify with ?? as leading actor (Q1765879), supporting actor (Q1416106), bit part (Q14786283) or extra (Q658371)
(note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example
According to statements in the property:
Cast Away (Q213411) → Tom Hanks (Q2263)
Helen Hunt (Q170574)
Paul Sanchez (Q105593042)
Titanic (Q44578) → Leonardo DiCaprio (Q38111)
Kate Winslet (Q202765)
The Book of Mormon: Original Broadway Cast Recording (Q7719277) → Josh Gad (Q1190319)
Andrew Rannells (Q560516)
Rory O'Malley (Q7366932)
Nikki M. James (Q7035245)
Justin Bohon (Q28007176)
Kevin Duda (Q96066034)
Michael Potts (Q6833594)
Lewis Cleale (Q6536432)
Asmeret Ghebremichael (Q22277923)
Michael James Scott (Q23416892)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P161 (Q29168737)
See alsovoice actor (P725), character role (P453), talk show guest (P5030), performer (P175), recorded participant (P11108)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total1,620,933
Main statement1,619,445>99.9% of uses
Qualifier1,434<0.1% of uses
Reference54<0.1% of uses
Search for values
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Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Neighbours (Q3562390)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
 
 
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Value type Q5, Q26401003, Q120544, Q1141470, Q18510489, Q11664239, Q95074, Q215380, Q216866, SPARQL
 
Property “sex or gender (P21)” declared by target items of “cast member (P161)”: If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Target required claim P21, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
 
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
 
 
Property “occupation (P106): actor (Q33999), television actor (Q10798782), film actor (Q10800557), stage actor (Q2259451), singer (Q177220), comedian (Q245068), reality television participant (Q27658988), child actor (Q970153), announcer (Q1371925), recording artist (Q55960555), podcaster (Q15077007), puppeteer (Q2629392), dancer (Q5716684), video blogger (Q4110598), ballet dancer (Q805221), television presenter (Q947873), stunt performer (Q465501), Internet celebrity (Q2045208), pornographic actor (Q488111), seiyū (Q622807), animal actor (Q52688389), musical theatre actor (Q1954956), amateur actor (Q1800680), reality television program judge (Q60118864), radio personality (Q2722764), online streamer (Q57414145), owarai tarento (Q12330954), rapper (Q2252262), tarento (Q2705098), novelist (Q6625963), disc jockey (Q130857), composer (Q36834), musician (Q639669), documentary participant (Q106638245), television personality (Q44508716), AV idol (Q1079215), gravure model (Q28692662), opera singer (Q2865819), voice actor (Q2405480), Japanese idol (Q226008), photo-player (Q10628536), silent film actor (Q26262117), kabuki actor (Q48146261), nihon-buyō dancer (Q105581958), extra (Q658371), performance artist (Q10774753), news presenter (Q270389), weather presenter (Q1154500), video game actor (Q116695160), photographer (Q33231), YouTuber (Q17125263), virtual talent (Q118793301), VTuber (Q55155641), public figure (Q662729), pornographic actress (Q66382950), actress (Q21169216), interviewee (Q55534929), contemporary witness (Q187157)” declared by target items of “cast member (P161)”: If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “occupation (P106): actor (Q33999), television actor (Q10798782), film actor (Q10800557), stage actor (Q2259451), singer (Q177220), comedian (Q245068), reality television participant (Q27658988), child actor (Q970153), announcer (Q1371925), recording artist (Q55960555), podcaster (Q15077007), puppeteer (Q2629392), dancer (Q5716684), video blogger (Q4110598), ballet dancer (Q805221), television presenter (Q947873), stunt performer (Q465501), Internet celebrity (Q2045208), pornographic actor (Q488111), seiyū (Q622807), animal actor (Q52688389), musical theatre actor (Q1954956), amateur actor (Q1800680), reality television program judge (Q60118864), radio personality (Q2722764), online streamer (Q57414145), owarai tarento (Q12330954), rapper (Q2252262), tarento (Q2705098), novelist (Q6625963), disc jockey (Q130857), composer (Q36834), musician (Q639669), documentary participant (Q106638245), television personality (Q44508716), AV idol (Q1079215), gravure model (Q28692662), opera singer (Q2865819), voice actor (Q2405480), Japanese idol (Q226008), photo-player (Q10628536), silent film actor (Q26262117), kabuki actor (Q48146261), nihon-buyō dancer (Q105581958), extra (Q658371), performance artist (Q10774753), news presenter (Q270389), weather presenter (Q1154500), video game actor (Q116695160), photographer (Q33231), YouTuber (Q17125263), virtual talent (Q118793301), VTuber (Q55155641), public figure (Q662729), pornographic actress (Q66382950), actress (Q21169216), interviewee (Q55534929), contemporary witness (Q187157)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Neighbours (Q908708), no label (Q125415396)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Target required claim P106, SPARQL
 
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Scope, SPARQL
 
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Entity types
 
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
 
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): version, edition or translation (Q3331189)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL
 
Conflicts with “genre (P136): documentary film (Q93204), television documentary (Q7603925), documentary television series (Q27868077)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: This House (Q110748469), 100 Seasons (Q123594901)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P161#Conflicts with P136, SPARQL
  • Exception: target items could be "organization" (e.g for music bands)
  • Exception: target items could be any kind of "a list of"="person"
 
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Movie properties
Cast & crew
Websites
Americas
Asia
Europe
Western Europe
Eastern Europe
Northern Europe
Southern Europe
Film genres
Ratings
Lists
Other
Generic
See also

Scope?

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Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Can this property be used for TV series or radio shows? --Wylve (talk) 14:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Starring --> Actors

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Latest comment: 11 years ago9 comments4 people in discussion

Note: Label and description has changed after this discussion Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions (at moment, later Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2013/Properties). --Nightwish62 (talk) 19:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

I can't see the discussion anywhere. How will we indicate who played leading roles? And I think the correct term for the entire cast would be exactly that, rather than "Actor / Actress". Not all cast members will be actors. Danrok (talk) 22:32, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
My fault. It's here (at moment): http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#Property:P482 --Nightwish62 (talk) 17:12, 16 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think the label should be cast member. See Cast member. That allows it to be used in all situations, see Notre-Dame de Paris. Danrok (talk) 21:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
  Support renaming label to "cast member". It is sex-neutral and also allows all types of creative works. --Wylve (talk) 16:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I have changed it now, so it fits with most types of production, and can include cast members who are not actors, e.g. musical cast members. Danrok (talk) 18:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think this property should include only actors.--Romero (talk) 12:36, 25 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Any reason for that, and how are you defining actor? Danrok (talk) 13:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
In movies for example other cast members except actors are covered by other properties (e.g. "cinematographer"). For a definition of actor you can see here.--Romero (talk) 20:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

"Property:voice actor" vs. "Property:cast member"

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Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

There is no screenplay of actors in an animated "show" (movie/series). Would it be correct to use the Property voice actor / actress instead of the one here? --Bahnpirat (talk) 15:24, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Reply


Which qualifiers ?

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Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

To distinguish starring or minor roles use qualifiers - which qualifiers and which values? The all-too generic <P794 (P794)> ? LaddΩ chat ;) 01:59, 21 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

X playing Y playing Z

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Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

In the movie Muppet Treasure Island (Q1788520), the cast includes actor Steve Whitmire (Q34939) as muppet Kermit the Frog (Q1107971) playing the role of "Captain Abraham Smollett". How would this property be used to represent that? --Yair rand (talk) 23:13, 5 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Non-human actors

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Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Maybe should we add another exception to the nature of the item for actor animals: Bart the Bear (Q809222)? Symac (talk) 12:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Usage of this property should be sorted ASAP

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Latest comment: 8 years ago7 comments4 people in discussion

An enormous number of film items already have this property but we still have no idea how to use it rendering it useless when it comes to invoking it in Wikipedia. For all the Template:Infobox film (Q6171351), we need two things: a) differentiating between the leads and the supporting cast and b) the billing order (at least for the leads that receive a main billing). – Máté (talk) 06:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

About your question (a): a few items use the qualifier P794 (P794) to determine this ("??" in the sample of the property documentation above): Q180214#P161, Q723679#P161, Q1140439#P161, Q1765286#P161.
--- Jura 20:26, 6 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
I was thinking that we may have a "main billing ordinal" property of some sorts with a number type, which could solve both problems, as it would get no value for supporting cast and an actual value for the leads. The P794 (P794) would remain useful especially with TV shows, where there is regular cast, recurring cast and guest stars. – Máté (talk) 21:05, 6 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Q21521425 uses numbering extensively, but I think it's possible there due to the way it's being sourced.
--- Jura 13:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
The property does not mention it should be only used for starring cast, but it is used for the "starring" parameter in enwiki's infobox. Currently, the Hungarian description even explicitly includes secondary characters. Something needs to be done baout this indeed. nyuszika7h (talk) 13:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Distinction of leads and supporting cast is sometime very unclear, so I am not sure if that kind of info is suitable to be stored on WD. Current default rendering will reneder the order as it is stored on WD. It is possible to change the order, but unfortunately it is already not possible using UI (only API). At cswiki we are invoking P161 from WD as "label (character role)" with limitation for 5 (and note "more can be found at WD"). --Jklamo (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
It can be quite straightforward: the key is billing. If one has a main billing, then they are a lead. If not, they are not. Sure, it may not reflect the extent of their roles, but their contribution to the commercial value of the film product, yes. And that is good enough for the infobox. – Máté (talk) 13:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

narrator (Q755070)

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Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

An unnamed character who tells a story (frequent to fairy-tales) d1g (talk) 21:38, 6 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

self (Q18086706)

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Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Used in character role (P453). d1g (talk) 05:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

stunt performer (Q465501)

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Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Which property should be used for stunt performer (Q465501): cast member (P161) or film crew member (P3092) with qualifier P794 (P794)? -- Sergey kudryavtsev (talk) 12:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Reason for deprecation: "scenes cut in editing" Q66722559

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Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

No luck for the actor .. sample at Q492089#P161 --- Jura 11:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC)Reply


Label in Portuguese (currently "protagonistas")

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Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Maybe this should be changed as the property isn't just for protagonist (Q215972), but maybe it's a false friend. --- Jura 20:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Skateboarders who are part of a Skate Video - Are they cast members? If not, what are they?

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Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I am trying to write a wikidata item for a skate video. I wanted to include the skateboarders who are featured in the video as cast members. This is flagged as Skateboarder is not an accepted occupation for the Cast Member statement. Should skateboarders be included or is there a different statement I should be using? Thank you for any help. --Wil540 art (talk) 22:27, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Label in French

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Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

See Topic:Wq93rf29llopwpys.

In a nutshell, @TomT0m: suggested to change the label in French of this property from "distribution" to "acteur". Several people (@Mith, Ash Crow, Deansfa, Hsarrazin:) opposed this change. "membre de la distribution" was also proposed as a trade-off (@Olyon01:) and received mild support.

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 11:37, 22 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Documentary and occupation

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Latest comment: 1 year ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi,

The "occupation = actor" (and alike) constraint (value-requires-statement constraint (Q21510864)) is violated for documentary... (see for instance Narbonne, la seconde Rome (Q120214690)).

What should we do : Change the constraint ? Use an other property ? (in the latter case, it should be explicit and added documentary as conflicts-with constraint (Q21502838))

Pinging top user of this property @Frettie, Barcex, Beat Estermann, Oliviervd, Mbch331: (with NavelGazer).

Cdlt, VIGNERON en résidence (talk) 09:04, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

@VIGNERON en résidence: I just found recorded participant (P11108) (a property dedicated to documentary works). I'm going to add the conflicts-with constraint (Q21502838) constraint. (I'm still not sure about people appearing in archive material who are not actively participating, should depicts (P180) be used in these cases?) - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 09:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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