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NRHP reference number
identifier in the National Register of Historic Places assigned by the National Park Service of the USA
RepresentsNational Register of Historic Places (Q3719), NRHP listed place (Q19558910)
Applicable "stated in" valueNational Register of Historic Places (Q3719)
Has qualityidentifier (Q853614)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domaingeographical feature (Q618123), artificial physical object (Q8205328) or group of physical objects (Q61961344)
Allowed values(10|\d)\d{7} (numeric string, 8 digits, 9 digit since 2017)
ExampleHoover Dam (Q172822)81000382
Empire State Building (Q9188)82001192
Boston Fish Pier (Q33053063)100001314
Sourcehttps://npgallery.nps.gov/nrhp/AdvancedSearch
Formatter URLhttps://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/$1
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Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P649 (Q20990064)
Related to country  United States of America (Q30) (See 481 others)
See alsoNational Trust for Historic Preservation ID (P5827), ASCE Historical Civil Engineering Landmark ID (P5904)
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    Current uses
    Total82,248
    Main statement69,791 out of 109,975 (63% complete)84.9% of uses
    Qualifier3<0.1% of uses
    Reference12,45415.1% of uses
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    Format “(10|\d)\d{7}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P649#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
      Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P649#Item P131, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
     
    Item “coordinate location (P625): Items with this property should also have “coordinate location (P625)”. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P649#Item P625, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
     
    Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P649#scope, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
     
    Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P649#allowed entity types, SPARQL (new)
      Items without ID
    Items that do have NRHP listed place (Q19558910) in heritage designation (P1435), but not NRHP reference number (P649) (Help)
    Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { VALUES ?value { wd:Q19558910 } . ?item wdt:P1435 ?value . MINUS { ?item wdt:P649 [] } } LIMIT 1000
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P649#Items without ID
      National Historic Landmark but not listed on the National Register of Historic Places
    Items who are designated National Historic Landmark (Q624232), but are not listed as NRHP listed place (Q19558910) or NRHP district (Q20856087) (Help)
    Violations query: SELECT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q624232 . MINUS { ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q19558910 } MINUS { ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q20856087 } }
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P649#National Historic Landmark but not listed on the National Register of Historic Places
      National Memorial, National Historic Site or National Military Park but not listed on the National Register of Historic Places
    Items who are National Memorial of the United States (Q1967454) National Historic Site (Q1258086) or National Battlefield (Q203676), but are not listed as NRHP listed place (Q19558910) or NRHP district (Q20856087) (Help)
    Violations query: SELECT ?item WHERE { { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q1967454 . } UNION { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q1258086 . } UNION { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q203676 . } MINUS { ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q19558910 } MINUS { ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q20856087 } }
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P649#National Memorial, National Historic Site or National Military Park but not listed on the National Register of Historic Places
      Items with pictures but no Commons Category
    Items that do have image (P18), but not Commons category (P373) (Help)
    Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P649 []; wdt:P18 [] . MINUS { ?item wdt:P373 [] } } LIMIT 1000
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P649#Items with pictures but no Commons Category
      Items who don't have a ressource type
    Items that do have NRHP listed place (Q19558910) in heritage designation (P1435), but not the qualifier subject has role (P2868) with NRHP building (Q47162123), NRHP district (Q20856087), NRHP structure (Q47162146), NRHP site (Q47162186) or NRHP object (Q47162172). (Help)
    Violations query: SELECT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q19558910 . MINUS { ?item p:P1435 [ ps:P1435 wd:Q19558910 ; pq:P2868 [] ] } } LIMIT 1000
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P649#Items who don't have a ressource type

    Single valueEdit

    Fralambert removed the single value constraint in this edit. NRHP id's are in fact unique. With historic districts the id is for the district, not for the individual contributing properties. This is currently one big mess, so if someone is bored, but it doesn't mean we should remove the constraint. Multichill (talk) 20:31, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

    Ok, I will place the augmented historic districts as exception instead as delete the single constraint. --Fralambert (talk) 20:52, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

    National Historic LandmarksEdit

    National Historic Landmark (Q624232), National Memorial of the United States (Q1967454), National Historic Site (Q1258086) and National Battlefield (Q203676) are not a part of the National Register of Historic Places (Q3719) program, they are only automatiquely listed when they are designed or established. Asd explained here, the White House, the Capitol, and the United States Supreme Court Building are not part of the National Register of Historic Places program. The best solution would be tho probably create complex constraint on the subjet, like: if National Historic Landmark (Q624232) it sould have also NRHP listed place (Q19558910) or NRHP district (Q20856087). --Fralambert (talk) 23:50, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

    Can you explain why en:National Military Park contains As with all historic areas in the National Park System, these battle sites are automatically listed on the National Register of Historic Places.? Very confusing this. Multichill (talk) 19:13, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
    If I understand the principle, when the government establish a National Battlefield (Q203676), it will be automatically listed on the National Register of Historic Places as a NRHP listed place (Q19558910) or more likely a NRHP district (Q20856087). --Fralambert (talk) 01:45, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

    District and other typesEdit

    @Ipoellet: Hi, since we agreed to use subject has role (P2868), sould we ask a bot to move NRHP district (Q20856087) to a NRHP listed place (Q19558910) --> subject has role (P2868): NRHP district (Q20856087) format? Also I think that we sould create a complex constraint for the alowed type. What do you think? --Fralambert (talk) 22:40, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

    @Fralambert: I think those are both good ideas, but technologically well out of my depth. I wouldn't know where to start. — Ipoellet (talk) 05:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
    Statistics by ressource types. Also the districts were moved today.--Fralambert (talk) 02:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
    SELECT ?value ?valueLabel (count(?value) as ?count) WHERE 
    {
     # VALUES ?value { "wd:Q47162123" "wd:Q20856087" "wd:Q47162146" "wd:Q47162186" "wd:Q47162172"}
      ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q19558910 . 
      ?item p:P1435 ?name . 
      ?name ps:P1435 []; pq:P2868 ?value .
      SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en". }
    }
    group by ?value ?valueLabel
    

    Try it!

    An also items by ressources type.
    SELECT distinct ?item ?itemLabel ?designation ?designationLabel WHERE 
    {
      ?item wdt:P1435 wd:Q19558910 . 
      ?item p:P1435 ?name . 
      ?name ps:P1435 []; pq:P2868 ?designation .
     SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
    }
    order by ?designation
    

    Try it!

    --Fralambert (talk) 03:00, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

    Boston Fish PierEdit

    Are we sure of that ID for Boston Fish Pier? The generated link doesn't go to any asset documents, and I don't recall ever seeing a 9-digit NRHP ID before. Same value in en-wiki, but that could well be the same error, propagated. - Jmabel (talk) 06:46, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

    New format for identifiersEdit

    Not sure how this will play out for us, but it looks like there is a new, incompatible format for these identifiers, with prefix codes added. See, for example, https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nationalregister/weekly-list-20180921.htm. Not all of these are likely to pertain to Wikidata items, but certainly 'SG', 'MP', and 'NL' will. Related discussion at commons:Template talk:NRHP#NRHP id number format has changed. I don't know whether this changes old IDs, but it definitely changes the format for new ones. - Jmabel (talk) 06:50, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

    @Fralambert, Laddo: you've edited the regex for this before, would it be possible to change it to cope with these new formats please? (I've sorted it out on Commons, but I don't know regex.) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:58, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
    I'm not sure that this is new format for identifier. The only change I see was the addition of a 9th number in 2017. this look like more a way to make the diference between the type of nomination. Like on this list, we have at least one delisting in Texas, and if we exclude the OT, it's that same old ID. --Fralambert (talk) 14:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
    @Mike Peel: Changing the format would be easy: (SG|MP|NL|)(10|\d)\d{7} - however I haven't been able to test a single case were the link was working, nor even the Earl Hall case mentioned in the discussion SG100002189. Can you give at least one example of a working link with the new format? - LaddΩ chat ;) 20:27, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
    @Auntof6, Jmabel: see above. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:06, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
    If you mean the link to the NPS page that describes the place, I don't think any links with the new format will work. It seemed like they stopped creating those NPS pages (or maybe started creating them with different URLs) at some point before they started using the prefixes, because the links don't work for some places with 8-digit numbers, either. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
    By my observation, it take four or five years to enter a entry on the NPS. I begin just to se the entries of 2013 and maybe 2014? --Fralambert (talk) 22:16, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
    Hi @Jmabel:, I discover last week that the NRHP publish spreadsheet of all the listed places in the register. The properties added since 2017 don't have 'SG', 'MP', and 'NL' at the beggin, only 9 number. @Auntof6: If I understand they decided to put the new places in the National Archive instead. [1] Maybe we should change the format url to the new one. --Fralambert (talk) 18:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

    Single value constraintEdit

    I try a constraint I seen in coordinate location (P625). It mostly that you can have more that one value if you have a reason. Il deleted Guernsey State Park (Q115036), and if it work, I will delete all the exceptions. --Fralambert (talk) 23:03, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

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