Property talk:P947

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RSL ID (person)
person identifier in the Russian State Library

Description	identifier of the Russian State Library
Associated item	Russian State Library (Q1048694)
Applicable "stated in" value	Russian State Library (Q1048694)
Has quality	numeric identifier (Q93868746)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	"RSL" (proposed) in ru:Шаблон:Библиоинформация
Domain	According to this template: Person According to statements in the property: human (Q5) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	\d{1,9}
Example	Alexander Pushkin (Q7200) → 000080362 House of Abaza (Q4054212) → 000044402
Source	http://aleph.rsl.ru/F/?func=file&file_name=find-b&CON_LNG=ENG http://aleph.rsl.ru/F/?func=file&file_name=find-b
Formatter URL	http://aleph.rsl.ru/F?func=find-b&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=RSL11&request=$1&CON_LNG=ENG http://aleph.rsl.ru/F?func=find-b&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=RSL11&request=$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P947 (Q61035017)
Related to country	Russia (Q159) (See 357 others)
See also	RSL scanned publication ID (P1815), National Library of Russia ID (P7029)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P947 Database reports/Constraint violations/P947 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 1,814 Main statement 1,811 99.8% of uses Qualifier 2 0.1% of uses Reference 1 <0.1% of uses
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Format “\d{1,9}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Qualifiers “language of work or name (P407), excluding (P1011), subject named as (P1810), reason for deprecated rank (P2241), reason for preferred rank (P7452)”: this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#allowed qualifiers, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#Type Q5, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#Scope, SPARQL

This property is being used by: w:ru:Шаблон:Внешние ссылки s:ru:Шаблон:Внешние ссылки ar:قالب:ضبط استنادي ko:틀:위키데이터 속성 추적 wikt:ko:틀:위키데이터 속성 추적 incubator:Template:Wp/jje/위키데이터 속성 추적 Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Discussion

Prefix

 Done
Example: Q7243 Leo Tolstoy is using nafpn-000084026
Other pages using the template:

Alexander Pushkin (Q7200)

Leo Tolstoy (Q7243)

Vladimir Putin (Q7747)

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (Q34474)

Zinaida Gippius (Q61940)

Alexandra Tolstaya (Q3609559)

Today the parameters at ruwikipeia do not use the prefix nafpn-. Hopefully we can find an useful url. for MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js‎
לערי ריינהארט (talk) 19:47, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Толстой, Лев Николаевич (1828-1910) = Sys. no. 000084026. As you said: "Today the parameters at ruwikipeia do not use the prefix 'nafpn-'." The RSL does not use a prefix as well. So why do you add it? --Kolja21 (talk) 23:57, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Since yesterday the tool User:Magnus Manske/authority control.js supports The RSL identifier. The basic question is what the official value of the identifier is. To avoid broken links as available at the BnF idsentifier one should implement an identifier normalisation.
note: for Leo Tolstoy (Q7243) scanning the viaf.org source code page for lines using "new Node" helps identifying the national identifiers at viaf:96987389 shows

new Node("RSL|nafpn-000084026", "RSL", "Russian State Library-test");

The viaf.org page source code is not a dogma. I can live without the prefix. Please contact Magnus to handle this site related normalisation / exceprion in retrieving the AC identifier. Thanks in advance!
Please see and comment also at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js#Authority Control values and hacks - parameter representation - url generation. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 07:03, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

re: "The viaf.org page source code is not a dogma." Especially if the site The Russian State Library states that their parameter is Sys. no. 000084026 . לערי ריינהארט (talk) 08:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

FYI: I deleted all nafpn- at the occurences I added previously. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 10:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Format constraints - length check

 Done
It seams that Format "[0-9]" might be improuved by a length check. I counted nine digits. What do you think? לערי ריינהארט (talk) 07:16, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Your right, "[0-9]" didn't work. Let's try [\d]. d = digit. I'm no expert for regexp. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:29, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I wonder where to comment the generation of the "Format" violations section of Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P947#Format. It shows only

Violations count: 28

Please add a time timestamp of the last change and the regex used to create that list. Thease add this comment at the right place. Thanks! Maybe one should display

Violations count: 28 out of (total number of verified pages)

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 06:13, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Just take a look at the top of the page: "Zeitstempel: 11.10.2013 – Geprüfte Datenobjekte: 28". That's your timestamp and the number of checked pages. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:57, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

It depends on "uselang=foo" compare uselang=de and uselang=en. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 16:33, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Is it possible to trigger a new validation? like a "action=purge" for non special pages?

No, you have to wait 24h. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:43, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 09:16, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

updates for Database reports/Constraint violations/P947 RSL identifier

Today I see Data time stamp: 12 October 2013 0:00 UTC — Items processed: 32. I added some more. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 09:16, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Data time stamp: 12 October 2013 0:00 UTC — Items processed: 32 is still unchanged. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 19:52, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

RSL 000000000

Property talk:P214#blacklistVIAF ^{Property talk:P214#new constraint violations about deprecated VIAF identifiers} is about handling deprecated VIAF identifiers using a future (property) identifier blacklist. Property talk:P244#blacklistLCCN is about blacklisting LCCN 000000000. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 20:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)