Property talk:P1315

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NLA Trove people ID
identifier for people or organizations per National Library of Australia (see also P409 for the older Libraries Australia identifier). Format: 5 to 7 digits.

Description	National Library of Australia party identifier
Associated item	National Library of Australia (Q623578)
Applicable "stated in" value	Trove (Q18609226)
Has quality	numeric identifier (Q93868746)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	According to this template: geographic location (Q2221906), organization (Q43229), human (Q5) According to statements in the property: human (Q5), organization (Q43229) or human biblical figure (Q20643955) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	[1-9]\d{4,6}
Example	Andrew Barton Paterson (Q436699) → 514760 Isaac Aaron (Q15994254) → 1500864 Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (Q1117048) → 458251 Australian Red Cross, Tasmania Division (Q105319088) → 519116
Source	According to this template: People Australia has a Open Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting (Q2430433) interface to extract the information. According to statements in the property: https://trove.nla.gov.au/people/result?q= When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Formatter URL	https://trove.nla.gov.au/people/$1 https://nla.gov.au/nla.party-$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1315 (Q61034948)
Related to country	Australia (Q408) (See 201 others)
See also	Libraries Australia ID (P409), Trove newspaper ID (P5603)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P1315 Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 160,361 Main statement 132,237 82.5% of uses Qualifier 4 <0.1% of uses Reference 28,120 17.5% of uses
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Format “[1-9]\d{4,6}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Format, SPARQL

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Edgar Allan Poe (Q16867), Jesus (Q302), Bessie Lee Cowie (Q4896479)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Type “human (Q5), organization (Q43229), human biblical figure (Q20643955)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), organization (Q43229), human biblical figure (Q20643955)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Titanic (Q25173), Kings County (Q11980692), Chinatown (Q1099025)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Type Q5, Q43229, Q20643955, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Entity types

This property is being used by:

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• en:Template:Wikidata property tracking

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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

More information needed

Right now the English label for this property is: "People Australia identifier". AFAIK the identifier is also used for companies etc (see: domain). Can someone add more information to the background of the project? Is it a kind of Australian VIAF? --Kolja21 (talk) 14:40, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

AFAICT, yes, it is. Ijon (talk) 16:15, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Background

• Australian Research Data Commons (ARDC)
  • ARDC Party Infrastructure Project: FAQs

• Catalog NLA Trove: People and organisations
  • Name of the identifier: NLA Persistent Identifier

• Ambiguous (label: "NLA"): Libraries Australia ID (P409)
  • better (?): Libraries Australia Authorities

Please add more ...

Decision time

This seems to work for either people or party (or some others). Given its usage here, and >1M entries for people, I'd say we should use it for people only. --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Nonetheless, the data set in Mix'n'match definitely contains orgs as well as people, and a few geonames to boot. Ijon (talk) 16:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Single value?

This data set definitely contains multiple IDs for the same thing. E.g. for Soviet Union (Q15180). This isn't a one-in-10,000 exception. More like one in a hundred. Ijon (talk) 16:18, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

and, uh, British Library (Q23308)...

Perhaps @Wittylama: knows someone at the NLA who could shed light on why there are so many IDs for the British Library? Ijon (talk) 17:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

I asked via Twitter and this was the response across several tweet replies: "So it looks like there was a problem with the initial data load from Libraries Australia back in 2009. We're looking into the solution. Fixing this isn't going to happen quickly. It will need some long term data work and will need to be looked at in the future. FYI, the People zone, where you get the NLA party id, is based on Encoded Archival Context - Corporate bodies, Persons, and Families. This is why you will see organisations as well people in there. The schema is here - http://eac.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/ ". [1][2][3][4].

I hope that helps. Wittylama (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2017 (UTC)