Property talk:P1315
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NLA Trove ID
identifier for people per National Library of Australia (see also P409 for the older Libraries Australia identifier). Format: 5 to 7 digits.
identifier for people per National Library of Australia (see also P409 for the older Libraries Australia identifier). Format: 5 to 7 digits.
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Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Format, SPARQL, SPARQL (new) |
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: Edgar Allan Poe (Q16867), Jesus (Q302), Bessie Lee Cowie (Q4896479)List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Single value, SPARQL, SPARQL (new) |
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value), SPARQL (new) |
Type “human (Q5), organization (Q43229)”: element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), organization (Q43229)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: RMS Titanic (Q25173)List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#type Q5, Q43229, SPARQL, SPARQL (new) |
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help) List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
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Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#allowed entity types, SPARQL (new) |
More information neededEdit
Right now the English label for this property is: "People Australia identifier". AFAIK the identifier is also used for companies etc (see: domain). Can someone add more information to the background of the project? Is it a kind of Australian VIAF? --Kolja21 (talk) 14:40, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
BackgroundEdit
- Australian Research Data Commons (ARDC)
- ARDC Party Infrastructure Project: FAQs
- Catalog NLA Trove: People and organisations
- Name of the identifier: NLA Persistent Identifier
- Ambiguous (label: "NLA"): Libraries Australia ID (P409)
- better (?): Libraries Australia Authorities
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Decision timeEdit
This seems to work for either people or party (or some others). Given its usage here, and >1M entries for people, I'd say we should use it for people only. --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Single value?Edit
This data set definitely contains multiple IDs for the same thing. E.g. for Soviet Union (Q15180). This isn't a one-in-10,000 exception. More like one in a hundred. Ijon (talk) 16:18, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
- and, uh, British Library (Q23308)...
- Perhaps @Wittylama: knows someone at the NLA who could shed light on why there are so many IDs for the British Library? Ijon (talk) 17:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
- I asked via Twitter and this was the response across several tweet replies: "So it looks like there was a problem with the initial data load from Libraries Australia back in 2009. We're looking into the solution. Fixing this isn't going to happen quickly. It will need some long term data work and will need to be looked at in the future. FYI, the People zone, where you get the NLA party id, is based on Encoded Archival Context - Corporate bodies, Persons, and Families. This is why you will see organisations as well people in there. The schema is here - http://eac.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/ ". [1][2][3][4].
- I hope that helps. Wittylama (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2017 (UTC)