Property talk:P1315

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Wittylama in topic Single value?

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NLA Trove people ID
identifier for people or organizations per National Library of Australia (see also P409 for the older Libraries Australia identifier). Format: 5 to 7 digits.
DescriptionNational Library of Australia party identifier
Associated itemNational Library of Australia (Q623578)
Applicable "stated in" valueTrove (Q18609226)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domain
According to statements in the property:
human (Q5), organization (Q43229) or human biblical figure (Q20643955)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values[1-9]\d{4,6}
ExampleAndrew Barton Paterson (Q436699)514760
Isaac Aaron (Q15994254)1500864
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (Q1117048)458251
Australian Red Cross, Tasmania Division (Q105319088)519116
Source
According to this template: People Australia has a Open Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting (Q2430433) interface to extract the information.
According to statements in the property:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/people/result?q=
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Formatter URLhttps://trove.nla.gov.au/people/$1
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1315 (Q61034948)
Related to country  Australia (Q408) (See 201 others)
See alsoLibraries Australia ID (P409), Trove newspaper ID (P5603)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total137,936
Main statement115,25683.6% of uses
Qualifier4<0.1% of uses
Reference22,67616.4% of uses
Search for values
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Format “[1-9]\d{4,6}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Format, SPARQL
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Edgar Allan Poe (Q16867), Jesus (Q302), Bessie Lee Cowie (Q4896479)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Single value, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1315#Entity types
 
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More information needed edit

Right now the English label for this property is: "People Australia identifier". AFAIK the identifier is also used for companies etc (see: domain). Can someone add more information to the background of the project? Is it a kind of Australian VIAF? --Kolja21 (talk) 14:40, 17 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

AFAICT, yes, it is. Ijon (talk) 16:15, 24 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Background edit

  • Australian Research Data Commons (ARDC)
    • ARDC Party Infrastructure Project: FAQs

Please add more ...

Decision time edit

This seems to work for either people or party (or some others). Given its usage here, and >1M entries for people, I'd say we should use it for people only. --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Nonetheless, the data set in Mix'n'match definitely contains orgs as well as people, and a few geonames to boot. Ijon (talk) 16:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Single value? edit

This data set definitely contains multiple IDs for the same thing. E.g. for Soviet Union (Q15180). This isn't a one-in-10,000 exception. More like one in a hundred. Ijon (talk) 16:18, 24 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

and, uh, British Library (Q23308)...
Perhaps @Wittylama: knows someone at the NLA who could shed light on why there are so many IDs for the British Library? Ijon (talk) 17:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
I asked via Twitter and this was the response across several tweet replies: "So it looks like there was a problem with the initial data load from Libraries Australia back in 2009. We're looking into the solution. Fixing this isn't going to happen quickly. It will need some long term data work and will need to be looked at in the future. FYI, the People zone, where you get the NLA party id, is based on Encoded Archival Context - Corporate bodies, Persons, and Families. This is why you will see organisations as well people in there. The schema is here - http://eac.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/ ". [1][2][3][4].
I hope that helps. Wittylama (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
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