Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive/2017/12

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Soft block for 193.144.37.46?

Looking at Special:Contributions/193.144.37.46 it is just low grade vandalism, not much, but all vandalism. I guessing a school, would you consider a long -term soft block?

There is no need to now since there was only 1 edit. MechQuester (talk) 03:47, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Requesting protection of Q4120122

Please semi-protect Ruggero Pasquarelli (Q4120122). Persistent vandalism from various IP addresses, popular theme.--Jklamo (talk) 08:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done --Pasleim (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Was here today for pure vandalism. All edits have been undone. Please go ahead to block the user. Thx. -- ZH8000 (talk) 17:19, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

I have blocked him. Stryn (talk) 18:22, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

I found vandalism but can't undo them due to software limitation

I found vandalism on this page Help:Navigating_Wikidata/User_Options/zh.

On 29 July 2017‎, an IP address made three very obvious vandalism edits.

But when I click on the "undo" links on the history page, it doesn't allow me to undo, because I have to use "the translation tool" to make any edit.

I hope administrators could help undo those vandalism edits, and help report this software problem.

Cooper2222 (talk) 09:21, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cooper2222. Thank you very much for reporting this. Translated pages are automatically generated from a lot of single pages in the Translations namespace. So to revert changes on a translated page, you'll have to find the edits on these single pages (in this case Translations:Help:Navigating Wikidata/User Options/1/zh ff). The edits are undone now. --YMS (talk) 09:35, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
OK. Thanks! Cooper2222 (talk) 22:34, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

IPs

Can someone revert and block the IPs on project chat? If it's not the same user as the one that is already blocked, they might as well be required to log in.
--- Jura 12:12, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Blocking directly is not useful because the user is at a German ISP where he can get a new IP by telling his router to reconnect in 5 seconds. Banning the whole ISP produces too much collateral damage. As it stands semiprotecting the project chat is also too much collateral damage. When you see bad edits, feel free to immediately revert them, you don't need admin rights to do so. ChristianKl () 17:09, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
I don't really see what non-admins can do. As any edits are considered bad, I think temporary semi-protection could work out.
--- Jura 18:41, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Selena image

Hello. TheBellaTwins1445 an me have a difference of opinion on what image should go in Selena (Q23543). TheBellaTwins1445 tries to add Selena Drawing by Elioth.png, image uploaded and created by him (see Facebook link in Commons description). But I think that image is of poor quality, I think it would be better to add another, for example, Selena drawing.jpg or maybe Selena's tombstone. Because this discussion started on Wikipedia in Spanish, I tried to contact the user there, but I have not received an answer. So please, I ask for your help to reach an agreement. Thanks. --Gusama Romero </talk> 20:43, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata cannot decide which image you want to use on the Spanish Wikipédia. On Wikidata, it is possible to add several values (in this case, several image) for the property "image". Pamputt (talk) 21:07, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
This seems to be primarily a content matter, so if you have the discussion on Wikidata the first place would be the discussion page of the item and the second our project chat. ChristianKl () 23:05, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Please have a look at Agamemnon (Q30349045). I'm too heavily involved in this issue to take any admin actions. --Pasleim (talk) 21:06, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Protected by ValterVB Pamputt (talk) 21:10, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi, please semi-protect Luis Fonsi (Q1387726) for 20 years. Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) 14:45, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

semi-protected for 1 year --Pasleim (talk) 14:47, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

add request

please add zh-min-nan:LeBron James in Q36159.--112.5.237.143 15:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done --Pasleim (talk) 15:54, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism in Q16211162

Melanie Martinez (Q16211162) has seen repeated vandalism during the last two days. Semi-protection for a few weeks might be best. --Kam Solusar (talk) 16:26, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done 3 months semi-protected. Thanks for the report, —MisterSynergy (talk) 18:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

add Good article

Please add Good article in Q336445.--良質丸 (talk) 17:50, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done. I suppose you meant the jawiki article. Since it indeed carries a “good article” badge, I also added it to the sitelinks. —MisterSynergy (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Tobias Conradi

could someone please investigate Special:Contributions/92.226.213.195

IP making personal attacks on PC, and I'm dubious about edits and "corrections" on Q639669 - Thanks. --Hsarrazin (talk) 14:59, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

IP user 213.39.186.16 seems to want to get banned?

See this diff and similar comment on Project Chat. ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:35, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Tobias Conradi again. I have meanwhile blocked 213.39.186.16 (talkcontribslogs) for harassing comments (and removed those), but I guess he'll find new IPs quickly. —MisterSynergy (talk) 15:38, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
So clearly the same person claims not to be Tobias (with a new IP as expected). Obviously somebody with too much time on their hands. However the concern just above this sounds perhaps more serious, if somebody who understands French can take a look. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, sure. Too bad that his characteristic edit behavior (topics and aggressive tone) as well as his IP ranges tell a completely different story. I compiled this list of IP ranges in November (all Telefonica Germany) to track his edits, now I’d like to add two more ranges:

Since Tobias Conradi has access to too many IPs, effective blocking might be impossible (although I consider talking to WMF about this). The best idea at this point would be to ignore him, even if sometimes some (explicitly not all) of his input might appear useful. Tobias Conradi has received a global ban in 2015, so his presence in Wikimedia projects is explicitly undesirable and should not happen. —MisterSynergy (talk) 20:00, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Property Te Papa agent ID (P3544) - Te Papa artist ID

I'm unsure whether I'm raising this discussion in the appropriate place but thought I should let folk know of a possible issue with the title of this property. The Te Papa id relates not just to artists whose works are held at the museum but also to scientists, collectors and other people who have contributed to the Museum of New Zealand such as curators and donors. See for example the identifier used in this item relating to a scientist. As a result I believe the property should be renamed as "Te Papa ID" to avoid confusion. Please let me know if this isn't the appropriate forum to discuss this. Thanks --Ambrosia10 (talk) 17:35, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

@Ambrosia10:, the appropriate place would be Wikidata:Project chat.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! Appreciate the help. Will head there now. --Ambrosia10 (talk) 20:24, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
@Ymblanter, Ambrosia10: actually Property talk:P3544 is a much better place. People who watch the property (like me) have a bigger chance of noticing it and also easier for future reference. I'll move it to the talk page. Multichill (talk) 13:44, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism in Q720503

Please semi-protect Asahi Shimbun (Q720503). Various IPs change the description to 日本の悪質新聞 (Japanese vicious newspaper).--本日晴天 (talk) 02:50, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done 6 months semi-protected; Thanks for reporting! —MisterSynergy (talk) 07:51, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism in Q24276424

Just saw that there's a whole flurry of vandalism edits by IPs and new users in Kim Seok-jin (Q24276424). Over a hundred edits just yesterday, most of them bad. I think semi protection would be good for this item. --Kam Solusar (talk) 00:15, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Similar edits seem to happen on J-Hope (Q22583558). --Kam Solusar (talk) 00:25, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  Done. I added 1 year semi-protection to both items since they continuously attract malicious edits. They both still need repairs I guess, but I feel unable to do so. Do we have any experts for Korean bands? —MisterSynergy (talk) 08:05, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks @MisterSynergy:, also for protecting BTS (Q13580495) and RM (Q20514446). Now I'm curious what might be behind this vandalism. The items are about a Korean boy band and its nembers, but the vandalism seems to come from Spanish speaking people. The Korean labels and descriptions weren't touched. Pretty much all involved IPs are from south or middle american countries (Chile, Ecuador, Argentine, Peru, Mexico) and some of the registered accounts (all created immediately before their first edits) were created on the Spanish Wikipedia. And most edits are about adding either other band members or other names as spouses. So it's either someone using proxy servers or there's something somewhere on the Spanish-speaking internet or maybe TV that caused people to make these edits. --Kam Solusar (talk) 11:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Difficult to find out how this was triggered. Some speculation: the eswiki articles are all protected, but the infoboxes have “edit at Wikidata” links. Maybe they came here because they couldn’t vandalize eswiki. More in genereal, I have the impression that there is significantly more vandalism from Spanish-speaking countries than from many others. No idea why, though. —MisterSynergy (talk) 11:45, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protection for "RM" (Q20514446) and "BTS" (Q13580495)

Hello,
Could you semi-protect RM (Q20514446) and BTS (Q13580495), due to frequent vandalism from various IP addresses?
It seems that there was a wave of vandalisms on all the unprotected items of members of the BTS group (cf. #Vandalism in Q24276424 above).
Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 23:51, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done; both 1 year semi-protected as above. —MisterSynergy (talk) 05:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Defamation and harassment

Good afternoon,

please, block Droit de retrait 03. She just stated, once again and gratuitously, that I made "POV-pushing", "sabotage", and that I was a "far-right contributor" (Special:Diff/604928724), while she is harassing and following me since several months (Special:Diff/475227795, Special:Diff/475826846, [1], Special:Diff/498154123, Special:Diff/486799892). Also, I'm hugely convinced she's not here to contribute peacefully. She never created any item, added just a very few datas and mainly settled for deleting datas, inveighing against alleged "ignorants" (Special:Diff/605215965), "fachosphère" (Special:Diff/605217729), "dustbin" ([2]), etc.

She is ever blocked on French Wikipedia—I must precise I don't know the case ([3]).

I can't stand it no more.

Thank you, and apologies for my broken English,

Nomen ad hoc (talk) 14:30, 7 December 2017 (UTC).

En français, parce que mon anglais est de mauvaise qualité.
Hello
Contributeur Nomen ad hoc a révélée mon identité réelle à plusieurs reprises, alors que j'avais fait modifié mon pseudo parce que j'étais harcelée par des sites et contributeurs de la fachosphère (avant son arrivée).
sur fr:wikiquote (1), il a révélé mon identité réelle, puis fait l'innocent et obtenu mon blocage, et le masquage de ses révélations de mon identité. [4]
sur wikiquote (2), il m'a accusée d'être une IP qui avait publié une citation antisémite en révélant mon identité dans le résumé de diff [5] [6]  : écrire mon patronyme, ou mieux encore mon prénom + patronyme est pour Nomen ad hoc une source de jouissance inépuisable.
sur wikidata, ce qui lui a valu un blocage [7], il avait publié mon identité réelle (propos masqués) [8].
sur wikipédia en français, où ses interventions ont été masquées (aucun blocage). [9]
Nomen ad hoc a plusieurs fois supprimé des références à mes travaux, références qui n'avaient pas été publiées par moi-même, par exemple [10] ou [11] (pour cette référence, je précise que je n'ai pas besoin de faire ma promotion sur wikipédia ; cet article en archives ouvertes est dans plusieurs bibliographies pour les étudiants depuis plusieurs années).
Ce contributeur a créé sur wikidata une page à mon nom, alors que je ne suis pas du tout "notoire".
Ce contributeur a créé sur wikidata les pages pour plusieurs collègues avec lesquels j'avais collaboré, alors que ces personnes ne sont citées dans aucune page d'aucune version de wikipédia. La seule raison d'exister de ces pages est "a été en relation de travail avec XX (droit de retrait)", ce qui est vraiment du harcèlement. (liste sur demande).
Ce contributeur fait en sorte que les fonctions "académiques" (professeurs des universités, directeurs de recherche au CNRS…) soient invisibilisées sur fr:wp, ou il supprime les fonctions sur wikidata.
exemple : sur une page où Nomen ad hoc n'est jamais intervenu [12], je supprime une erreur et corrige [13] (8 mai 2017 à 09:45)  ; 8 mai 2017 à 16:37, Nomen ad hoc rend invisible le métier de cet historien (directeur de recherche au CNRS) à [14], en utilisant un procédé particulièrement vicieux puisque ce bidouillage de l'infobox est très difficile à repérer. (dizaine d'exemples ; liste sur demande)
Ce contributeur a révélé le nom du partenaire sexuel d'un homme politique français, information qui a été publiée uniquement sur les sites de la fachosphère, encore visible dans l'historique (nom et lien sur demande, par courrier privé).
Ce contributeur a révélé l'adresse privée (renseigné sur wikidata).
Ce contributeur a créé des pages sur wikidata pour les membres de la famille de personnes qu'il harcèle (parents, enfants, époux, fratrie…), sans aucune source de qualité.
Ce contributeur est vraiment un contributeur de la fachosphère : voir par exemple fr:wp, où pour écrire la page sur un auteur collaborationniste il utilise comme source principale un auteur négationniste.
Ce contributeur a édité 1,590 fois la page d'Henri de Lesquen [15] (première édition 2015-04-05 15:01) ; 156 fois la page d'un négationiste [16]
ce contributeur publie en page de discussion des liens vers un site négationniste, et ensuite supprime ses messages [17]
ce contributeur publie sur wikidata que le négationnisme est "une position politique" [18] (en France, le négationnisme – Shoah – est un délit).
Je signale que Nomen ad hoc a été particulièrement harceleur contre plusieurs membres de l'association Wikipédia France (noms et liens sur demande).
Chers administrateurs, si vous estimez que mes interventions pour essayer de limiter les effets du POV-Pushing effectué sur votre banque de données par un contributeur d'extrême droite est nocif pour votre banque de données, n'hésitez pas à me bloquer. Vous pouvez aussi félicitez Nomen ad hoc pour son remarquable travail.
Bien à vous --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 16:45, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Ajout. Nomen ad hoc nomme "détracteurs" les scientifiques qui ont étudié les négationistes [19], et "personnages" les négationistes. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 16:54, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Ajout (2) : il a aussi publié en partie mon identité réelle au bistrot de fr:wikipédia [20] ; il me semblait qu'une telle action était interdite, mais visiblement, Nomen ad hoc bénéficie d'un régime d'exception. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 17:26, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Ajout (3) : si Nomen ad hoc estime que mes propos sont de la diffamation, je lui suggère de porter plainte auprès de la juridiction "ad hoc" ; un procès serait fort intéressant, je pense pouvoir avoir sans difficulté des témoignages de personnalités (de tous bords politiques) qui attesteront de la façon dont agit ce pseudonyme sur les projets de la fondation. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Ajout (4) : exemple de harcèlement par publication d'informations privées [21] avec utilisation sur wikidata [22] + suppression par moi [23] + changement du libellé par Nomen ad hoc pour rendre invisible les publications d'informations privées et le harcèlement, ni vu ni connu [24]. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 18:14, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
I have nothing to answer to Droit de retrait 03 (she is not a person I talk with). But I am of course at the disposal of the administrators to answer their possible questions. (Good attempt of creating a diversion, I'll admit.) Nomen ad hoc (talk) 08:27, 8 December 2017 (UTC).
Ajout. Nomen ad hoc demande la suppressions de mes pages personnelles sur fr:wp, avec un prétexte mensonger (je n'ai pas été "bannie"), il obtient satisfaction et je demande par mail privé à un admi de rétablir ces suppressions abusives [25] [26]. Nomen ad hoc est un grand expert en manipulations des administrateurs. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 08:58, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Ajout. Sur commons, j'ai fait nettoyé les nombreux copyvios effectués par ce contributeur [27] ; j'ai aussi fait nettoyer les copyvios faits par des contributeurs d'extrême droite. Nomen ad hoc a (plusieurs fois) insisté pour conserver des fichiers ne respectant pas les droits du photographe, par exemple ici [28]
Nomen ad hoc n'était pas content d'avoir perdu ; en réponse, il supprime piste et harcèle [29] [30]
Harcèlement d'une femme sur wp et data. XX demande et obtient la suppression de sa date de naissance sur la seule banque de données où cette information figurait en application de la loi Informatique et libertés sur les données personnelles [31] ; l'information ne figure plus nulle part. Je la supprime de wikidata ([32]) ; Nomen ad hoc la republie avec comme source googlecache [33]. Je supprime de nouveau ("(‎Annulation de la révision 602727966 par Nomen ad hoc (talk) : wikidata n'est pas la poubelle du net - harcèlement)") [34]. Nomen ad hoc force l'infobox à afficher cette information [35]. Nomen ad hoc utilise wikidata et les projets wikipédia pour harceler ; ses cibles sont très souvent des femmes (je peux fournir des exemples en échanges privés). Cela participe à donner à wikidata une mauvaise réputation. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 09:44, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Some notes (please, an admin really needs to look at this carefully!)
  • Nomen ad hoc was previously known as User:Pro patria semper.
  • @Ash Crow: was involved in a previous dispute between these two, this seems to have included a block for Pro patria semper/Nomen.
  • Droit de retrait 03 has claimed that Nomen has added a lot of information not supported by references - see second section of User talk:Droit de retrait 03 which is a copy of a section from Nomen's talk page that was deleted by Nomen, rather than responded to. This claim should be examined carefully. We need users who are responsible about adding correct information to wikidata; active users adding statements not supported by the provided references are hurting us, not helping.
ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:07, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Answered on your talk page. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:43, 9 December 2017 (UTC).
ajout : masquage 31 juillet 2016 à 20:45 par Ash Crow de mon identité https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User+talk%3ADroit+de+retrait+03 --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 11:44, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

She goes on tracking me. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 09:43, 9 December 2017 (UTC).

@Droit de retrait 03: some free home brew website is not official website (P856). Now you're just trying to irritate other users. Please don't do that. Multichill (talk) 14:04, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Unexplained deletion

@Nomen ad hoc: Can you explain your deletion of the person's occupation at Q3168446? This is open on the item's talk page.
--- Jura 11:59, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

I have nothing to say to Droit de retrait 03. But I'll answer you, of course: 1° IMO "professeur des universités" is not an occupation, but a position; so no valid reason to indicate this at Occupation ; 2° the résumé introductif (lead section) of his French Wikipedia article only introduces him as a French "archaeologist" and "prehistorian". Nomen ad hoc (talk) 12:05, 9 December 2017 (UTC).
It's also seen as an occupation at Wikidata. I think you should either move it to P39 or leave it there. I think we all agree that the person is actually a "professeur des universités".
--- Jura 12:11, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Of course he is. And obviously the point wasn't to negate this, but to manage his occupations in order that they be coherent with Wikipedia article. I think move it to P39 is a good idea—I must admit I didn't think to this yet. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 12:20, 9 December 2017 (UTC).
To Wikidata, it's not really important where the (French) Wikipedia article notes it as long as the statement can be (or is) referenced.
--- Jura 12:29, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
I apologize for my broken english.
@Nomen ad hoc: wrote here 12:05, 9 December 2017 : « 2° the résumé introductif (lead section) of his French Wikipedia article only introduces him as a French "archaeologist" and "prehistorian"»
False. 7 décembre 2017 à 20:17, and since the creation of the page, "professeur" is mentionned in the introduction [36]
To day : «Jean-Paul Demoule, né le 7 août 1947, est un archéologue et préhistorien français.
[with a linea new paragraph, introduced by @Nomen ad hoc: - MàJ 14:34 - new paragraph introduced by Nomen ad hoc Version du 21 avril 2016 à 13:01 [37]
Professeur de protohistoire européenne à l’université Paris-1 Panthéon-Sorbonne, il est membre honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France.»
Gros problème avec les traductions : "historien" n'est pas une "occupation" pour un universitaire ; c'est un champ disciplinaire. L'occupation – ie professionnelle – d'un universitaire est "enseignement et recherche" (en français "enseignant-chercheur").
Traduire par occupation (ou un autre terme imprécis) permet de mettre au même niveau les universitaires (ou chercheurs professionnels) statutaires (academic ou scholar en anglais et les autres "économistes" "historiens" "sociologues" etc.
Ainsi, sont définis comme "économistes" des lobbyistes employés par des think thanks et des historiens qui ne sont que des idéologues.
Un très important problème des projets wikimedia fondation.
--Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 13:19, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Stop mentioning me! Nomen ad hoc (talk) 13:21, 9 December 2017 (UTC).
@Nomen ad hoc: you started this topic accusing another editor of "Defamation and harassment". Please respond (in a polite manner). Multichill (talk) 13:58, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Respond to what? There was no question DDR3's comment. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 14:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC).

One more unjustified deletion of one of my contributions: [38]. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC).

False. A à 18:44, 9 December 2017, j'ai expliqué en page de discussion les raisons de cette suppression (faite à 18:35‎) [39]. Et j'ai republié l'information à 9 décembre 2017 à 19:25 [40], dans l'attente de compléments d'informations par les documentalistes de la BNF et du SUDOC. Je prie Nomen ad hoc de ne pas embrouiller avec des informations erronées et de respecter les faits. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 06:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
No. Absolutely true. Futhermore, DDR3 goes on reverting me and commenting my item creations—often with comments off-topic (speaking about French Wikipedia). It is an inappropriate use of talk pages. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 08:48, 10 December 2017 (UTC).

Unexplained deletions (2)

@Droit de retrait 03::

why did you delete the statements at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q30332896&type=revision&diff=539945686&oldid=527539627 ?
pourquoi la suppression des déclarations à https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q30332896&type=revision&diff=539945686&oldid=527539627
--- Jura 14:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
J'ai trouvé l'explication dans l'historique de la page. Dans ce cas, une demande sur Wikidata:Requests for deletions aurait pu être formulée.
--- Jura 14:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
@Jura1::
Salut. Merci de votre attention. J'ai interrogé (en privé) plusieurs participants de Wikidata (dont administrateurs). Ils m'ont tous répondu que quelques-unes de mes publications étaient référencées sur les wiki-projets, et donc je n'avais aucune chance d'obtenir la suppression de cette fiche.
C'est un gros problème que les sujets concernés ne peuvent pas faire rectifier ou supprimer des informations de wikidata (en France, la loi "Informatique et Libertés" offre cette possibilité aux fiché.e.s dans une banque de données. Par supprimer, je veux dire aussi de l'historique (masquer). Bien à vous --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 14:46, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Today I've received (if I'm not wrong) 23 thanks from Droit de retrait 03. It's clearly a misuse of this functionality to harass. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 07:55, 12 December 2017 (UTC).
Je fais du nettoyage sur les ID invalides "IdHAL" entrées dans la banque de données par Nomen ad hoc. Après avoir constaté l'erreur de programmation, je l'ai signalé et les corrections ont été faites. Pour l'entrée "identifiant idHAL", de nombreuses entrées publiées par Nomen ad hoc envoient le lecteur sur des liens planté. Je le remercie parfois d'avoir publié ce lien…
Je ne comprends pas l'utilité de publier des liens plantés, ou d'envoyer le lecteur vers des pages vides. Dans mon métier, j'ai appris qu'il fallait éviter au maximum ces erreurs, car elles provoquent une disqualification d'un site informatique.
J'ai nettoyé les fiches que Nomen ad hoc avaient entrées (remplies d'erreur), et pour lesquelles il faudrait inventer la caractéristique "motivation de la présence sur wikidata : environnement professionnel de moi-même". Je le remercie donc de la création de ces pages.
C'est amusant de voir un contributeur spécialisé en harcèlement se plaindre qu'on le remercie. Bonne journée. --Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 08:20, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protection for Q3191083

Please semi-protect Q3191083, various IP repetedly remove birth date, sourced by BNF. Thanks -- Speculos (talk) 10:25, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 11:37, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protection for Q274125

Please semi-protect Q274125, frequent political vandalism from various IP. Gytha (talk) 12:05, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 17:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Problematic user that removes content without explanation, although I have told you in a couple of editing summaries because you should not delete these parameters.
Also already has a history about disruptive editions and more above has had a blocked for the same.... --186.84.65.243 18:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Q44960346

This topic formerly existed as Q26908759 but is deleted. Should the former item be reused?--2001:DA8:201:3512:BCE6:D095:55F1:36DE 05:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

No, I restored it and merged to the new one. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

What's up with this item? I can't delete it as it's edit history is too long. ChristianKl () 15:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

It's part of the Wikidata:Tours. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 15:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Request for undeletion (Bangladeshi MPs)

I couldn't find a better forum for this — pointers welcome if there is one.

Q42725424, Q42725480, Q42725594, Q42725596, Q42725597, who are all Members of the Parliament of Bangladesh, have all been deleted. I don't know how to tell who deleted them or why, but can they please all be undeleted. Thanks --Oravrattas (talk) 13:59, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done, all restored (@ValterVB: FYI). Those items have no sitelinks, identifiers, references, or backlinks which makes them appear on several “problematic item” watchlists. Since we have myriads of such content, sometimes seemingly good items are deleted as well. Please make sure that you always provide external references or identifiers if there are no sitelinks, in order to avoid such situations. —MisterSynergy (talk) 14:06, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, @Oravrattas: have you some reference that these peoples are Member of the 10th Jatiya Sangsad (Q42712773)? Normally every parliament have a web page with a list of parliamentarians, yoyu can add to the item in references section --ValterVB (talk) 14:18, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't create these, but I'll see if I can find suitable references. (cc: @Andrew Gray:) --Oravrattas (talk) 14:19, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
I think I probably did these via matching from the lists at EveryPolitician - do you know where those were sourced from? IIRC the 9th JS doesn't have an English members list so it's tricky for me to cite that. Andrew Gray (talk) 14:21, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Thankfully the Wayback Machine still has a copy of the old page: http://web.archive.org/web/20150924064612/http://www.parliament.gov.bd/index.php/en/mps/members-of-parliament/former-mp-s/list-of-9th-parliament-members-english --Oravrattas (talk) 14:34, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
  Done --ValterVB (talk) 14:49, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Request for page protection

please semi-protect Camila Cabello (Q18810940) for about 1 year, thanks. Jc86035 (talk) 16:01, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done Semi-protected for 1 year. Pamputt (talk) 11:10, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Please block this user (long-term vandalism). --UV (talk) 11:06, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done Blocked for 6 months. Pamputt (talk) 11:07, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

יחסי בנגלדש-ישראל

he:יחסי בנגלדש-ישראל (Bangladesh–Israel relations) is not a featured article on Hebrew Wikipedia. It is incorrectly marked as good article in Wikidata. - Mar11 (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

badge removed. --Pasleim (talk) 15:51, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Strange edits from 2600:8800:3981:7A80:194E:E87A:2510:F53C

See contributions list. This IPv6 user seems to be adding a huge number of links from obscure language wikis to wikidata items, and making substantive changes to them. Not sure what's going on here. I looked at the "Michael Copper" item (which was previously labeled "Claire Kittrell" in English, and still is in many other languages) and this user switched gender from female to male (according to IMDB this person was born male) and made many other changes, some claimed to be "imported from" enwiki, but there is not (now) an enwiki link. I don't understand quite what's going on here but it looks like it could be abusive in some way. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:24, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

So looking a little more carefully, I think this is ok, but it's still odd. This IP address seems to have taken 3 or 4 minor celebrity items and over a few days added stub pages in between 12 and almost 30 different (mostly obscure - lmowiki? frpwiki?) languages on the respective wikipedia sites, and also edited some of the existing pages multiple times (mainly enwiki and simplewiki). As well as making numerous edits to the wikidata items themselves, sometimes several edits to the same field overwriting their previous changes. It could be multiple people working together on some kind of experimental or learning project? Or it could be some sort of test? Slightly worrying is that because of the number of edits from this address, it is now autoconfirmed and the edits don't show up on the patrol list any more. ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:44, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
IP's can't be autoconfirmed. Only accounts can. Mbch331 (talk) 16:47, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Ah, ok. I was misled by the lack of "(Tag: new editor changing statement)" on their recent contributions, but I guess none of them were statement changes (they were either link additions or changed descriptions). However when I click on this edit I see a "Mark as patrolled" link, while if I click on this one there is no such link. So it sure looks like none of their recent edits are being marked as unpatrolled??? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Some of their edits were patrolled. —MisterSynergy (talk) 18:54, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
You're right. I tried searching the patrol list for the IP address but I guess that doesn't work. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm seeing some similar recent activity (but just creating the small wiki articles and linking them, not doing other edits here) from 141.70.6.83. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:55, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
That you can't find anything in the patrol log when searching on IP, is because the patrol log doesn't show who made the edit. Only who patrolled the edit. Mbch331 (talk) 21:32, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
The strange edits are continuing. I'm beginning to doubt this is entirely in good faith now - perhaps adding all the obscure language stubs is some sort of attempt to bias some weighting algorithm? Recently I'm sseing a lot of wikidata edits from this IP replacing other sources with "imported from enwiki" statements. Also, @Pigsonthewing: - what do you think of this series of edits ? ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
It looks like the same person as Wikidata:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive/2016/12#Q263696 to me. - Nikki (talk) 16:54, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Definitely seems similar - making same kinds of edits to celebrity people items, although I don't notice previous cases that involved creation of tons of minor wiki pages along with. That might make rollback of all their changes harder, not sure if you can filter out sitelinks in rollback? Anyway, I'm guessing we probably don't want this person editing prolifically here. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:36, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Spam report

Hello, I don't think this is a correct behaviour. Please, see what to do. --Horcrux92 (talk) 08:51, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this. I let a message on his talk page. Pamputt (talk) 09:58, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Multichill blocked him. Pamputt (talk) 06:11, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

-> semi-protected? --Fractaler (talk) 10:12, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done; semi-protected for 1 week. —MisterSynergy (talk) 10:20, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Need to be protected from editing by anonymous. Removes elements of the date and place of death ([41], [42]). The singer is dead ([43]), there are links to sources in English, and Korean Wikipedias. GAndy (talk) 13:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done - I think that after 1 week, there won't be as much interest in that item as there is now, so semi-protected for 1 week. Mbch331 (talk) 15:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism on Q3186168

Hello, we have persistent vandalism on this item due the ṕerson, José Antonio Meade, is one of the main runners for the Presidency of Mexico. Can we protect for the next 6 months? --ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 17:12, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Done for 3 months, thanks for reporting. Stryn (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Please undelete per Topic:U432ethfnijit8z1. Some uses were incorrectly moved to sourcing circumstances (P1480) and no alternative has been determined yet. Edits need to be reverted.
--- Jura 16:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

If you have an example at least we could try to sort out what should be done. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:45, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
You wrote that "Some uses were incorrectly moved to sourcing circumstances (P1480)", so do you have some examples of such uses? Pamputt (talk) 22:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
I reverted the first sample mentioned on the qualifier's talk page. The query there lists 100s of similars ones. This discussion was mentioned in the Property for deletion discussion and the deleting admin even participated. If it helps, I can revert the others too.
--- Jura 10:16, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok, looks like Jura's referring to but for some reason not linking here to Property talk:P1480#de facto, interim, acting. The question appears to be whether sourcing circumstances (P1480) can be used as a qualifier with these values to describe the condition of a statement being temporarily or "de facto" true. If P1480 really isn't suitable, let's get a new property proposal out to fix these. In the meantime, restoring P794 will do nothing as these qualifier statements have already been moved to P1480, and they'll be easier to move straight to a new property (if really needed) than moving them twice, one back to P794 and once again to the new property and re-deleting P794. ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:30, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
  • "If P1480 really isn't suitable": I don't recall anyone writing that this is suitable, beyond the bot operator who changed his mind since. Personally, I can't fix it in another way than to revert the edits.
    --- Jura 13:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
    • According to Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P1480 there are 496 uses of P1480 that don't fit these value constraints, of which "acting" gives 98, "de facto" 61, and "interim" 20 for a total of 179 of the 496. Are there other values that you are complaining about? Because it seems there is quite a bit of misuse of this property in other cases already, much more than was introduced in this case. Anyway if P794 is restored it could be only restored with this specific meaning - "condition of statement" seems to be the consensus label in the linked discussion. That might simplify things. But I think a new property proposal would be a better idea. @Deryck Chan, Swpb, Pasleim: what do you think? ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
      • Do not undelete and close discussion with prejudice, per ArthurPSmith above and the very decisive consensus at Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#no_label_(P794). If a new property is needed for de facto/de jure and acting/interim, let it be proposed and discussed the right way. It's been very thoroughly established that Jura stands totally alone when it comes to wanting P794 (P794) restored (and when it comes to sourcing circumstances (P1480) being "incorrect" instead of merely possibly less than ideal). Furthermore, creating this new discussion without pinging the involved parties (which ArthurPSmith thankfully did) looks a lot like bad faith. Swpb (talk) 15:47, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
  • You're saying it's a false ontology; I'm not. I think "interim" is part of the definition of a role; an "interim president" being a different role from an unqualified "president". If a new property is needed, that's ok too, as long as it's tailored: "generic" is what made this mess to begin with. Swpb (talk) 19:28, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
@Swpb, Jheald: Read my proposal carefully   I noticed that acting (Q4676846)instance of (P31)occupation (Q12737077) but interim (Q4895105)subclass of (P279)rule (Q1151067), so I proposed to migrate sourcing circumstances (P1480)interim (Q4895105) to subject has role (P2868)acting (Q4676846). Deryck Chan (talk) 11:32, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Deryck. However, it seems to me that both that P31 and that P279 are wrong, and in my view that proposed use of P2868 smells very bad too. But thanks for the massive work that you put in dismantling the other former uses of P794. Jheald (talk) 13:21, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
It's that distinction that I don't buy. To me, "acting" and "interim" are near-perfect synonyms, that should both be instance of (P31) condition (Q813912) (and if no one minds, I'll make them such). I don't know if subject has role (P2868) is right or not, but whatever is right for one should be right for the other. Swpb (talk) 13:50, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

de facto (Q712144) / de jure (Q132555)

Since this thread is about (at least) two separate use cases, I think it's time to split it up to minimize confusion and make progress in parallel. The fate of acting (Q4676846) and interim (Q4895105) is being discussed above; let's discuss the fate of de facto (Q712144) and de jure (Q132555) here. Deryck Chan proposed above to move all current uses of sourcing circumstances (P1480)de facto (Q712144) to criterion used (P1013)de facto (Q712144). I replied as follows. Swpb (talk) 14:02, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

The more I look at it, it seems odd that "de facto/de jure" should be excluded from sourcing circumstances (P1480), while "official/unofficial" are perfectly accepted there, and mean something very similar (France (Q142), e.g., has a mix of "official" and "de facto", and it's hard to see a reason these should use different properties). Other than Jura, did anyone else push back on using P1480? (I know I did, but I'm reconsidering.) Side note, I also did a number of determination method (P459) --> de facto, so whatever we decide, those will need to come along too. I think any of P1480, P459, or P1013 would be fine for the "de facto/de jures" and "official/unofficials", as long as they all end up under the same property and it's left clear which should be used going forward. Swpb (talk) 18:48, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

P3084

An admin is needed, please, to enact the consensus at Wikidata:Properties for deletion#Property:P3084. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Now done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:42, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:42, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi i want to ask for help to move my article from draft to a normal artcile

Hi i have lot of work with my article for lot of times i get my article to repair now i done and i want it move from drat to article but i dont have premissions for that. Please if you can help me with this.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grindcomber (talk • contribs).

In wikidata we don't have article so you probably made a mistake in the place you need to ask it. - yona b (talk) 06:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Bot fight

It looks as though the edits of ValterVBot to add bh labels (e.g. [44]) are being adjusted by PLBot to bho (e.g. [45]), which then results in ValterVBot re-adding the bh label (e.g. [46]), which then is re-adjusted to bho by PLBot (e.g. [47]), resulting in another addition by ValterVBot (e.g. [48]).

This bot war is affecting hundreds of entries of all kinds. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:19, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

@ValterVB, Pasleim: Could you solve this? Mbch331 (talk) 06:45, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
I stopped my bot. However, mw:Manual:$wgDummyLanguageCodes and mw:Manual:$wgExtraLanguageCodes state pretty clear that bho should be preferred over bh. --Pasleim (talk) 08:06, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Strange that I did not notice it before :( Now I have fixed the bot. @Pasleim: you can restart your BOT. --ValterVB (talk) 08:47, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. --Pasleim (talk) 08:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

it-interwiki in ru-wikipedia

Epìdosis (@Epìdosis: to your attention) added ru-link to Q3615454 (for details, see here), and now it-wiki has an interwiki link. But the article in ru-wiki hasn't yet any interwiki. What's wrong? --Tamtam90 (talk) 19:06, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Probably caching. I do see an interwiki. Try purging the page (?action=purge). Mbch331 (talk) 19:23, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it helped. Thank you for your answer! --Tamtam90 (talk) 19:34, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Special:Tags

Special:Tags gives exeption server error "timeout".--Avatar6 (talk) 09:32, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata admins can't help with the problem. Stryn (talk) 09:51, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
But it's reported at phab:T91535. Stryn (talk) 09:53, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Request for page protection

Please semi-protect tuberculosis (Q12204) for 3 months to a year; not a lot of recent vandalism but all IP edits since at least one year ago have been vandalism. Jc86035 (talk) 13:43, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

(non-admin comment) I don't really find anything recent that makes a semi-protection needed. The recent vandalism, even from IPs has been minimal, in my opinion at least. --Kostas20142 (talk) 11:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Renewed edit warring at wheat (Q15645384)

AVISO: The main advocate of splitting up what he thinks are "stub" articles into artificial secondary items where they don't link to the main languages, is on the scene again, making a stink at wheat (Q15645384), this time disputing with repeated reverts, whether the Croatian and Czech articles on the species "merit" being with the other languages, or at a secondary duplicate item for "less favored languages".

Please note that I was previously blocked for edit-warring with this most erudite gentleman, therefore this time I have refrained from taking any part whatsoever in the edit warring, please do not shoot the messenger, and this time deal with the actual problem-user no matter how "favored" he is, so he stops creating problems. Thanks. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 13:22, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

What happens is that 2 users (Suik 2000 and Eduardosalg) have come gruelingly to deleted this images File:Muchacha italiana viene a casarse logo.png and File:El vuelo de la victoria.png on the pages mentioned in the header, per copyrights. But I see that in Commons is accepted ... What is recommended in this case?: Leave it (since it is images only consists of simple geometric shapes or text and it does not meet the threshold of originality) or delete it...!! --186.84.65.243 20:42, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Whether or not Commons wants to host the images is their decision and not ours. As long as Commons hosts them, there's no problem with the links. ChristianKl21:13, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

It has come to our attention that a contributor at en-wv has created local content that falls outside the scope of our project and he has also been linking to these questionable resources from wikidata.[49] While Interference fringe as described at Q136980 is a legitimate scientific topic there is no recognized field of "fringe sciences" as this user has defined it at Q46779707. (cf. Wikipedia:MADEUP)

Another problematic entry is sciences Q43096377 which is a duplicate [50] of science Q336 and does not link to similar content at any other wikimedia site. The only link is to v:Sciences which also falls outside the scope of our (or any wmf) project.

We are reviewing the contributions of User:Marshallsumter to ensure that they conform to the local policy of en-wv and we suggest that you review his contributions here to verify that his cross linking of en-wv content to other wmf content is acceptable and within the scope of this project. --Mu301 (talk) 18:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Hey Mu301, Thanks for the report. Right now we cannot do much with the items you’ve mentioned here, as they are inherently notable due to the enwikiversity sitelinks. It would certainly help us a lot if you talk back at this page after the review at enwv has been been completed and all changes in enwv resulting from it have been performed. It would then be rather simple to look for items which are no longer notable, and we would of course do so. In case of questions, feel free to ask. —MisterSynergy (talk) 20:12, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Are pages in namespaces like wp:User: and wp:Draft: excluded from inherently notability? We are considering adding a Draft namespace to en-wv and would like clarification on how it would be treated cross-wiki. --Mu301 (talk) 05:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
In general our automatic process put items like this that don't have any sourced statements or interlinks on deletion lists once all sitelinks are removed. ChristianKl01:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
This “automatic process” can be fool way too easily, and I see this happening a lot all the time. If you really want to be sure that someone looks at problematic items, you have to explicitly raise attention for them. —MisterSynergy (talk) 07:04, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
Our review could take some time. I'll return when we've reached consensus on how to handle things locally. @ChristianKl: Could you clarify what "once all sitelinks are removed" means? Does this imply that if en-wv deletes a page and the only links here to that missing page it gets deleted? Or does it mean that I would have to remove link manually? I don't have any specific request at this time. I'm just trying to learn how things work here. Feel free to followup on my talk page to reduce the clutter here. --Mu301 (talk) 23:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
As long as any Wikiproject has a regular page about a subject we keep our Wikidata item. Only when the relevant Wikiproject deletes their page we also delete the Wikidata item. Generally that's useful when a nonnotable item gets created in multiple Wikis because Wikidata provides Interwiki links that can be useful for the people having the deletion discussions on the individual wikis. ChristianKl00:02, 2 January 2018 (UTC)