User talk:Andreasmperu/2019/2016-2017

General del Ejercito

Hola! Habia cambiado los enlnances de los articulos en muchas lenguas de Army General. Lo habia hecho sin acceder. He cambiado porquè no eran exactas y he cambiado con General of the Army. El artuculo en lengua japonese lo cambiarè con el enlance con el articulo en lengua ingles y alemana Generaloberst, esto porquè muchos hacen confusion con los rangos militares y en partucular entre Army General y General of the Army--Gaetano56 (talk) 22:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Perdoname por mi espanol muy pobre--Gaetano56 (talk) 22:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Q11914886

Could you please add clarification in the English description for the two items, so that it will be clear what the difference is between these? --EncycloPetey (talk) 07:17, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Reverts

Hi, could you please explain your mass reversions of my edits? Is there a policy/guideline to support your actions? Mattythewhite (talk) 14:39, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Sure. Please check WD:D, especially the examples. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 15:17, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Explicación

Te explico los cambios que había realizado en wikidata y el motivo de los mismos, pues no se deben a un capricho personal:

• El artículo en español titulado Hidatidosis corresponde al inglés Echinococcosis, son los nombres que se dan en estos idiomas a dicha enfermedad. En el momento actual el artículo hidatidosis en español no esta enlazado a ningún artículo en inglés por error.

• Echinococcosis en ingles está enlazado incorrectamente con Equinococosis, este último término apenas se emplea en la terminología médica en español, por lo que en realidad Echinococcosis en ingles debe enlazarse con hidatidosis en español.

• Hidatidosis en español esta bien enlazado con los téminos equivalentes en Euskara, Français y Galego, pero mal enlazado con el italiano Echinococcosi cistica, debería estar enlazado con el italiano Echinococcosi, pues Echinococcosi cistica en italiano no tiene articulo equivalente en la actualidad en la wikipedia en español. También está más enlazado con el alemán Zystische Echinokokkose que no tiene actualmente artículo equivalente en español, debería estar enlazado con el alemán Echinokokkose.

Quizas en al transcurso de los cambios que como habras visto son algo complicados, cometí algún error no intencionado. De todas formas sería necesario arreglarlo, pues en la actualidad las equivalencias no son correctas. Un saludo --Posible2006 (talk) 03:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC).

Wikidata:Database reports/Wikipedia versions

Dear Andreasmperu; I have seen you contributing to a lot at pages linked to https://www.wikidata.org/?curid=24028442# (as for today titled Wikipedia versions but intended in general for WMF projects). I would be happy if you can review the properties of these pages, create the missing Wikibook and Wikiversity project pages, comment on user:I18n/sandbox (where you may find many usefull queries) and comment there with new / additional ideas. Best regards Gangleri also aka I18n (talk) 19:55, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I want to let you know that the number of Wikidata:Database reports/WMF projects has increased to more then 385. You may be interested in adding labels and descriptions in other languages, follow the discussion at property talk:P218#whats next, property talk:P219, property talk:P220, property talk:P1800 and comment there. Best regards Gangleri also aka I18n (talk) 02:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC) / I18n (talk) 10:29, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Angela Merkel

Do you really think that Angela Merkel has two religions, Evangelical Church and Evangelical Church in Germany ? I don't think so. -- Juergen 62.143.196.71 09:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

So I just restored my edits. Please do not revert again. Thank you. -- Juergen 5.146.93.86 08:52, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

You have an interesting Bible...

Amelia Peabody (Q2842665) is a Biblical person? --Palnatoke (talk) 12:21, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Municipio de Argentina

Hola Andrea, hasta donde entendí tu reversión en [1] es equivocada, el nombre del elemento Q3243765 es "Municipio", municipio de Argentina sería algo para ayudar a la descripción. --Pertile (talk) 02:30, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Hola, Pertile. No tengo idea de dónde has sacado esa idea, pero no es así. La etiqueta debe ser el nombre más común que define el elemento. El nombre más común no puede ser "municipio", dado que este es un término genérico y su uso haría imposible distinguir que el elemento trata sobre el "municipio de Argentina" y no sobre municipality (Q15284). Según tengo entendido, unos cuantos usuarios optaron por colocar esta etiqueta errónea en varios elementos para solucionar un problema en Wikipedia en español. Wikidata no está concebida solo para ser de utilidad para Wikipedia; su alcance es mucho mayor, por tanto este no es el lugar para solucionar problemas de una Wikipedia en particular. Por favor, si tienes alguna consulta sobre este proyecto, no dudes en preguntar. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:52, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Antes de revertir, primero pregunta, y por favor leete esto, para que te enteres el por qué de las cosas. --Shadowxfox (talk) 02:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Esto es Wikidata no Wikipedia en español. Los problemas de Wikipedia en español se solucionan allá, no aquí. Sería otro caso si el problema fuera generalizado en varios proyectos, pero si revisas el resto de etiquetas no es lo que sucede. Por favor, respeta las políticas de Wikidata. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:01, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

No son políticas de wikipedia, sino de wikidata, eso lo discutimos mucho tiempo cuando estabamos haciendo modificaciones a las fichas, pero parece que a usted le da algo de pereza leer, así que se lo doy mas facilito Help:Label/es.--Shadowxfox (talk) 03:05, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

PD: he aquí un ejemlo de los desastres que usted está haciendo [2].--Shadowxfox (talk) 03:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Las fichas son un tema de Wikipedia en español. Ninguna otra Wikipedia tiene este problema, luego no es un problema de Wikidata. Arriba explico por qué un término general no puede ser el más común. Por favor, solucione en tema en Wikipedia en español, no aquí. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Mire, la cosa es, wikipedia se nutre de wikidata, es un simbiotismo porque ESA es la finalidad de wikidata, servir de repositorio de datos que wikipedia extrae para entre otras cosas, rellenar fichas. Wikidata tiene ciertas reglas para las etiquetas y descripciones que deben ponerse en sus campos, y se las puse arriba, allí donde dice Help, pero parece que suceden aquí varias situaciones: o usted no quiere entender estas políticas, o le da una enorme pereza gastar 5 minutos en leer la discusión que tuvimos en la ficha de entidad subnacional, porque allí también discutimos sobre las diversas prioridades que deberían tener las etiquetas y que se convirtió en una política aprobada por concenso aquí mismo, en wikidata. Y sabe por qué ninguna otra wikipedia tiene el problema este ? porque ninguna otra wikipedia hasta el momento ha implementado la extracción de datos desde wikidata, pero cuando se vaya a hacer se tendrá que hacer lo mismo que hicimos nosotros en wikipedia en español. --Shadowxfox (talk) 03:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia no es el único sitio que se nutre de Wikidata. Wikidata es mucho más que Wikipedia. Por favor, deje de presumir mala fe. Si revisa un poco mis contribuciones, puede darse cuenta que tengo bastante experiencia en Wikidata, incluyendo mucho tiempo como bibliotecaria. No soy infalible, pero sí conozco bastante las políticas y el alcance de Wikidata (ciertamente, no ser simplemente una herramienta auxiliar de Wikipedia). Y claro que he revisado la discusión, por eso sé que es un problema con las fichas de Wikipedia en español. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:24, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Hola Andrea, la verdad que yo de Help:Label/es interpreto lo mismo que Shadowxfox, el nombre es "municipio" y "de Argentina" sería un agregado que tiene que ir en descripción para justamente no confundirlo con un municipio genérico. ¿Hay algún lugar donde podamos plantearlo con más gente? Así sumamos más opiniones.--Pertile (talk) 14:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Shadowxfox, Pertile:: He abierto la discusión a una audiencia más amplia: Wikidata:Project_chat#Labels:_A_general_term_vs._a_specific_one. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:37, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

No hacer trabajo doble

No dañe el trabajo,por así decirlo, pero cuando se cambia de provincia a Provincia de China, en la plantilla en español sale Provincia de China de China. --EEIM (talk) 05:38, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@EEIM: Por favor, detente. Ver el mensaje arriba. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 05:39, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

ver el link para ejemplo, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhui ,toca entonces uno por uno? o arreglar aquí uno no más?--EEIM (talk) 05:45, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Es un problema de la ficha creada en Wikipedia en español. No es un problema de Wikidata. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 05:46, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Sé que wikidata es una relleno de numeros y nomenclaturas para wikipedias con pocos usuarios, pero si se coloca solo municipio , no se pierde mucho porque para eso esta una serie de datos como pais, ciudad,etc, pero si se reescribe eso seria de mas , el ejemplo de arriba dice localidad +pais, pero para qué definir eso si está el resto de la información?

@EEIM: Por segunda vez, por favor detente. Esto es Wikidata, no Wikipedia. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 05:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Instancias de la Ciudad de Cali

Saludos,
El motivo por el cual retiré previamente las instancias "ciudad" y "ciudad con un millón de habitantes" para el municipio de Cali es debido a motivos estéticos y de organización, ya que estas instancias se ven reflejadas directamente en la ficha técnica de la página de Santiago de Cali en Wikipedia. El subtítulo de la ficha técnica de la página dice, debido a todas estas instancias, "Municipio, ciudad y ciudad con más de un millón de habitantes de Colombia". El caso de retirar lo de "ciudad con más de un millón de habitantes" es más por cuestiones estéticas de la ficha técnica. Por otro lado, el label "ciudad" me parece completamente irrelevante, ya que es un término ambiguo respecto a su uso internacional y en Colombia no constituye una unidad administrativa; peor aún, este calificativo en Colombia parece reflejar una especie de mayor estatus ("ciudad" es superior y más importante que "municipio") y han habido múltiples inconvenientes con usuarios que insisten que un poblado en particular no es "Municipio" sino "Ciudad"; por esto, además de irrelevante, considero que llegaría a ser perjudicial para el correcto desarrollo de la edición de artículos de municipios colombianos en Wikipedia. Dejaré estas dos instancias por ahora en espera de tu respuesta; sin embargo, sí quisiera que me aclararas eso de "Eliminaste un link de un ítem y no lo colocaste en ningún otro lugar"; esto me da a entender que es posible que mi labor haya estado bien encaminada pero mal ejecutada, por lo que quisiera saber cuál era el procedimiento que debí haber seguido para este caso (como ya habrás notado, no tengo mucha experiencia en WikiData).
Por otra parte, aprovecho para comentarte que la otra edición que me revertiste sobre el label de despliegue en español en la página "municipality of Colombia" tuve que revertirla nuevamente, ya que sí tenía un propósito y era corregir un claro error de visualización en las fichas técnicas de los municipios colombianos. Entiendo que la idea de completarlo es que provea información más completa (como dice el comentario de la reversión), sin embargo la ficha técnica ya está mostrando la descripción "Municipio de Colombia" con el label "municipio" redireccionando a la página "Municipios de Colombia". Con la modificación reciente, que cambia el label por "Municipio de Colombia", los artículos en español de Wikipedia quedan diciendo en la ficha técnica "Municipio de Colombia de Colombia". Si es el caso, este cambio debería realizarse en conjunto con el motor que soporta la plantilla de la ficha técnica para evitar este tipo de inconvenientes.
Me disculpo si en el texto se me fue alguna palabra en inglés, pero es que ha sido un poco tedioso escribirte con el corrector cambiándome cada tanto algunas palabras de español a alguna medio parecida en ingles.
Saludos y quedo pendiente. Muchas gracias. Tector (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

@Tector: Por favor, no vuelvas a retirar información válida por ningún motivo, mucho menos por una cuestión estética. El error de las fichas técnicas debe ser resuelto en Wikipedia en español. Esto es Wikidata y se siguen políticas propias. La etiqueta correcta es «municipio de Colombia», no municipio. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:44, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Lo siento mucho pero la estética de los artículos sí tiene relevancia y tú nuevamente olvidas que Wikipedia Español está amarrada a Wikidata. Este tipo de acciones deberían ser analizadas en conjunto entre los dos proyectos porque lo que estás logrando aquí es que se llegue a proponer que Wikipedia Español se desconecte de WikiData, lo cual no debería de pasar. Por más que insistas en políticas de Wikidata, la que estás aplicando con las etiquetas no parece coincidir con la página de ayuda al respecto y, como ya se te demostró, está afectado miles de artículos en Wikipedia. Te sugiero enormemente que concilies con los editores de Wikipedia Español antes de que, por tu actitud y acciones, terminen enemistados con Wikidata y optando por separar nuevamente los dos proyectos, algo que podría ser un retroceso, y todo porque lo que antes se consideró un gran avance ahora se está volviendo un karma. Espero aceptes la recomendación. Saludos. Tector (talk) 05:54, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Updating inhabitant in russian and other easterneuropean cityes

Hey, my name is PerV, I have cotributed to da wiki since 2009, and has concentrated my work on Easterneurope, especialy Lithuania, Ukraine and Russia. I have mad approximately 30.000 eddits, and created approximately 3.200 pages. As we are few on danish wikipedia to update the populations in all cities in the three countries, I have long time wanted to find out, how to automate these eddits. As far as I understand we can now do it, with refering to Wikidata. There is peolple on da wiki who knows how to do that, but as I see, the figures for population needs update on wikidata. I was thinking to suggest that I little by little update these figures from ru wiki, so both the population according to thev2010 census, and the 2015 estimate is on wikidata. I am just not sure how to do it. Where should I write "estimat/census", and where should I write the year, when I try to add "qualifier" there comes a dropdown box witch say "prperty", how should I ad estimate and year?

I hope you will give an abcc, as I don't have any knowledge about programming, I have only ... 10 years ago ... worked with som macrøs in word. But ofcourse this don't help here.

My idea is, that with these extensions of the use of wikidata, the work on a small wiki, like the danish will be less demanding.

Best regards PerV (talk) 19:11, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

@Perv:, please use qualifiers point in time (P585) and determination method (P459) as in this diff. --Infovarius (talk) 09:54, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Dokumentarfilm

Hallo Abdreas, warum machst du 83 Versionen von mir rückgängig, ohne mit mir Rücksprache zu halten? Queryzo (talk) 07:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Because you were massively deleting a valid claim and a property without prior consensus. Please do not do it again. An appropriate place to start a discussion for this would be Wikidata talk:WikiProject Movies. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:44, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I think it was not valid because documentary film (Q93204) is no film genre. --Jobu0101 (talk) 14:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

That is a disputable statement. And that is why it needs to be further discussed. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 16:56, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Reversión

Hola Andrea, veo que me revertiste aquí, había fusionado dos elementos en Wikidata que trataban de lo mismo, uno del artículo en alemán del obispo, y otro con las versiones en inglés, español e italiano. En la siguiente edición solo puse la descripción de "obispo cubano". Por favor revisa si yo estaba en lo correcto, o si no, me gustaría que me explicaras dónde está el error. Saludos. --UAwiki (talk) 21:55, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@UAwiki: Un error de mi parte. Ya lo revertí. La próxima vez que encuentres algo semejante no dudes en deshacer el cambio con un resumen de edición indicando el error. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 00:22, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Czech grammar

Hi, I am very grateful to you for what you do on Wikidata. I just want to warn you that the Czech language is not that simple. (i/y, í/ý mistakes are understood as the worst.) Thanks, Matěj Suchánek (talk) 13:59, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

@Matěj Suchánek: My bad. I only copied the label from another item. It would be useful to have some sort of explanation regarding these differences (a link maybe?), otherwise I would have to refrain myself from doing any more edits on Czech. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 00:24, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Such words ending with -ý/-á/-é are usually adjectives in masculine/feminine/neutrum form. Plural masculinum is either -í for people, or -é for things. The category you copied the label from was in plural with -í (komiksoví scenáristé), changing it in singular would result in -ý (komiksový scenárista), deducing its female form (komiksová scenáristka). Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:38, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Reversión Distritos de Francia

Hola Andreasmperu, he visto que has revertido el elemento Q194203, sobre distritos de Francia. Lo modifiqué porque en dichos distritos bajo el nombre de cada uno de ellos sale "Distritos de Francia de Francia" tal cual, y conseguí que con mi modificación desapareciera la redundancia. Si vas a dejarlo tal cual, ¿Me podrías decir otra manera de modificar los datos de tal manera que desapareciera dicha redundancia?. Un saludo. --Aitorembe (talk) 09:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

@Aitorembe: El problema que mencionas se origina en una ficha de Wikipedia en español, por tanto debe ser solucionado allá, no en Wikidata. Si lees más arriba, el tema ya ha sido explicado. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 05:17, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Q21791477

Please, can you restor Q21791477? He was the president of Q8343604 (source: interview). --Davidpar (talk) 12:15, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I cannot do that, because the item does not comply with Wikidata:Notability. Just being a director of a NGO, which itself only have one sitelink, does not guarantee the relevance of a person. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:01, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

73.213.10.135

He just wrote something inappropriate in his talk page.--Goanimatevideomaker20142015 (talk) 03:29, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Municipio de España

Hola, una pregunta: ¿por qué añade el calificativo de España en la etiqueta, cuando dichas entidades se llaman únicamente municipio? Además, al existir ya el alias municipio de España, aparece en el buscador así directamente, sin ambigüedad. Gracias por su aclaración. Echando una mano (talk) 00:53, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

@Echando una mano: Las etiquetas deben ser el nombre más común del elemento. "Municipio" es un nombre genérico, por tanto solo debe ser usado para el elemento municipality (Q15284). Véase las discusiones más arriba. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 00:48, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Con todo respeto, pero está usted equivocada: La norma dice claramente que las explicaciones y aclaraciones tienen que ir en la descripción y no en el título y que este puede ser, por dicha razón, ambiguo. Así que se puede usar "municipio" cuantas veces se necesite, siempre y cuando quede aclarado fuera de la etiqueta. "Municipio de España" no existe; lo que existe es "municipio", sin calificativos. Además el país ya aparece indicado en la misma ficha. --Echando una mano (talk) 21:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I agree with Echando una mano, the most common name for a Spanish municipality is "municipality" not "municipality of Spain". The "municipality of Spain" makes for clumsy phrasing in usecases like fr:Infobox Localité. --Zolo (talk) 11:18, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

The issue was discussed in Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2016/01#Labels:_A_general_term_vs._a_specific_one. Please feel free to open a new thread, but I do not see how a problem with inboxes in eswiki and frwiki should be resolved in Wikidata instead of in Wikipedia, where the problem originated. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 14:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I don't think there is really much to discuss about that, but I started Wikidata:Project chat#Names of types of county subdivisions. --Zolo (talk) 15:51, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Sigo son entender ese afán suyo por la incorrección en "municipio de España": El nombre correcto es "municipio", sin más, sin añadidos. La norma no obliga a poner calificativos; para eso están los alias. Esto no es Wikipedia. --Echando una mano (talk) 17:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Any reason why biografieonline.it is in the primary sources tool URL blacklist?

Hi @Andreasmperu: in this edit of yours, you added biografieonline.it in the URL blacklist. This is flawing the FBK-strephit-soccer dataset (uploaded to the primary sources tool), which uses that URL as the source for references, thus preventing people from using it. That dataset stems from the StrepHit IEG project, which aims at consuming reliable sources, by the way.

If you don't object, I will remove that URL from the blacklist, also because the source doesn't seem unreliable to me.

Cheers, Hjfocs (talk) 11:23, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Notificación de traducción: Help:FAQ

Hola, Andreasmperu:

Has recibido esta notificación porque te inscribiste como traductora de español y francés en Wikidata. La página Help:FAQ está disponible para su traducción. Puedes traducirla aquí:

• traducir al español
• traducir al francés

La prioridad de esta página es media.

Hi,

Would you have look at the question at Wikidata:Translators'_noticeboard#Source_language.

Thanks for your attention.

Yours

Jura1

Agradecemos enormemente tu ayuda. Traductores como tú hacen que Wikidata funcione como una verdadera comunidad multilingüe.

Puedes cambiar tus preferencias de notificación.

¡Gracias!

Los coordinadores de traducción de Wikidata‎, 17:25, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Religion of popes

I reverted your change because Benedict XVI was the only pope with religion=Q1841, other popes seem to have religion=Q9592. If there is consensus for the use of the former, I guess it should be done for all popes, not just one? --Wikijens (talk) 18:25, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Notificación de traducción: Wikidata:Data donation

Hola, Andreasmperu:

Has recibido esta notificación porque te inscribiste como traductora de español y francés en Wikidata. La página Wikidata:Data donation está disponible para su traducción. Puedes traducirla aquí:

• traducir al español
• traducir al francés

La prioridad de esta página es media.

Agradecemos enormemente tu ayuda. Traductores como tú hacen que Wikidata funcione como una verdadera comunidad multilingüe.

Puedes cambiar tus preferencias de notificación.

¡Gracias!

Los coordinadores de traducción de Wikidata‎, 16:26, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Question

Hi Andreasmperu. Apart from Q15735113 (which you prefer as "Deputy minister", with literal meaning "under the minister", the French "sous-ministre"), there is also another government official, also appointed at the same time as the ministers, below the rank of ministers in Greece, called Q23835901 - Αναπληρωτής υπουργός, literally "the one who replaces the minister", so I believe that the closest English translation is Deputy minister. I thought that we should maybe use the english "Deputy minister" in Q23835901, rather than in Q15735113. Choose whatever you think best. --FocalPoint (talk) 09:17, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

@FocalPoint: Maybe undersecretary (Q766504)? Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 07:54, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Link to Spanish page for Mail Carrier

The link to the Spanish Wikipedia at Mail carrier points to some basketball player. I removed that link, after which you put it back. (See https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2180295&action=history) I'm not sure where the actual page for 'un cartero' is located.

Always doublecheck the source first. In this case, the problem was in eswiki. Fixed Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 07:51, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Gancheros-плотогон

¿Me puedes decir por qué has deshecho la fusión entre "gancheros" y "плотогон"? Ambas son exactamente la misma profesión. --Anton vk (talk) 05:03, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

That is not correct. Please check all sitelinks before merging. The solution was to move just the link from ruwiki: fixed here. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 07:49, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of items

Hi Andreas,

May you please explain me why did you proceed to the deletion of items, some of which actually had items connected to them (i.e. Category:Diego Grez...)?

I understand there may be some dislike against me, but, come on, there's nothing wrong on having these items for informations' sake. --190.46.17.167 01:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

• 08:23, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q20751570 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "categoría de Wikimedia")
• 08:11, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q20085822 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "")
• 08:04, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967379 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "expresidenta del Centro de Alumnos del Colegio de la Preciosa Sangre de Pichilemu")
• 08:04, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967380 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "profesor chileno y expresidente del Centro de Alumnos del Colegio de la Preciosa Sangre de Pichilemu")
• 08:03, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967381 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "expresidenta del Centro de Alumnos del Colegio de la Preciosa Sangre de Pichilemu", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Diego Grez-Cañete|D...)
• 08:02, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967382 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "expresidente del Centro de Alumnos del Colegio de la Preciosa Sangre de Pichilemu")
• 08:02, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967383 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "expresidenta del Centro de Alumnos del Colegio de la Preciosa Sangre de Pichilemu", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Diego Grez-Cañete|D...)
• 08:02, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967384 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "estudiante chilena", and the only contributor was "Diego Grez-Cañete" (talk))
• 08:01, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967393 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "expresidenta del Centro de Alumnos del Colegio de la Preciosa Sangre", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Diego Grez-Cañete|Diego Grez-Ca...)
• 08:00, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967361 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "líder del centro de alumnos de un colegio chileno")
• 07:59, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q19967357 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "centro de alumnos chileno")
• 07:58, 20 April 2016 Andreasmperu (talk | contribs) deleted page Q23891468 (Does not meet the notability policy: content was: "", and the only contributor was "190.46.17.167" (talk))

Will you respond? 190.46.17.167 14:43, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

@AmaryllisGardener: can you have a look at this please 190.46.17.167 14:43, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

The explanation is already there: none of those items were in compliance with Wikidata:Notability, including the one with a link to a Commons category («an item with only a sitelink to a category page in Wikimedia Commons is not allowed on main article items»). Please read the policy and stop wasting other editors' time in order to promote your agenda. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 18:19, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

"The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references"....... aaaaaaaaanyway, my Peruvian friend. Sorry for wasting your time!!!! --190.46.17.167 17:10, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I have found no problems with these deletions. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 19:04, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

classification of jobs

An item that is about a job (like paraprofessional (Q7135767) has to have two components:

• For the career, use instance of (P31) with profession (Q28640)
• For the *person*, use subclass of (P279) with person (Q215627) (or a subclass of that)

-- Netoholic (talk) 19:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I think the concept you're looking for is semiprofession (Q7449623), but please, keep edit warring and putting snarky responses in edit comments rather than discussing. -- Netoholic (talk) 19:24, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

sélection olympique / moins de 23 ans de football

Bonjour. Je me permets de t'écrire en français car tu parais plus douée en français que moi en anglais ! J'ai vu que tu es repassée pour annuler les fusions entre équipe des moins de 23 ans et équipe olympique de football.

C'est un sujet un peu délicat car il a changé au cours du temps (les jeux olympiques ont été longtemps réservé aux joueurs amateurs, tandis qu'il y a eu par le passé des compétitions officielles dédiées aux moins de 23 ans). Mais concrètement, depuis 1992, les équipes olympiques de football correspondent aux sélections des moins de 23 ans (il n'y a pas d'autres compétitions dans cette classe d'âge), et les deux équipes sont appelés indifféremment de l'une ou l'autre des façons (cf. les introductions des articles, comme en:Spain_national_under-23_football_team, es:Selección de fútbol sub-23 de Italia, etc.).

Avant de procéder à ces fusions, j'avais rapidement vérifié et il n'y avait pratiquement pas de langue où coexistaient pour un même pays un article pour la sélection "olympique" et un autre article pour la sélection "des moins de 23 ans" - le seul conflit que j'avais identifié concernait deux articles en italien pour les équipes d'Italie. Cela m'avait conforté dans mon idée. Il me semble qu'avec leur séparation, on gagne certes en "pureté" des concepts, mais on perd en simplicité générale. Voilà pour mon constat. Mais bon, je n'en ferai pas une maladie. Bonne continuation ! --H4stings (talk) 11:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Bonjour, @H4stings: Sorry for the delay and for the English, but please feel free to keep writing in French if you wish so. Last week, I had the same impression as you: both Olympic and under-23 teams are surely the same thing. But then, I encountered the first problem: there were conflicts in some languages. In the English Wikipedia, there was en:Category:Olympic football teams (including four teams: Germany Olympic football team (Q1202757), East Germany Olympic football team (Q390326), Great Britain olympic football team (Q877411) and Yugoslavia Olympic football team (Q8060387)), but also en:Category:National under-23 association football teams (with 90 teams). In the Italian Wikipedia, there was also it:Categoria:Nazionali olimpiche di calcio (including 79 teams) and it:Categoria:Nazionali Under-23 di calcio (including 7 teams, all of them with a different Olympic team). As for the Korean Wikipedia, there was also a separate category for Olympic teams ko:분류:올림픽 축구 국가대표팀 (although, it only included one team: Germany Olympic football team (Q1202757)) and another one for under-23 ko:Category:サッカーのU-23ナショナルチーム (with 67 teams).

I was intrigued about this, so I kept digging. I found out there were other under-23 competitions different from the Olympics (this category was particularly enlighting: es:Categoría:Campeonatos de fútbol entre selecciones sub-23), therefore those teams needed a separated item than the teams competing exclusively in the Olympics (which, as you mentioned, was not always limited to under-23). So, we have Africa U-23 Cup of Nations (Q1738391), AFC U-23 Asian Cup (Q1150767), AFF U-23 Youth Championship (Q4651490), Gulf Cup of Nations Under 23 (Q2759944), and so on. Also, some competitions have been restricted in the past or have started to be restricted recently to under-23, like Toulon Tournament (Q517763), football at the Pacific Games (Q1478088) or football at the Mediterranean Games (Q1478081). With all this background, it seemed to be wise to keep both teams separated. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 23:19, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Bonjour, merci de ta réponse (pas de souci pour l'anglais, je le comprends beaucoup mieux que je ne l'écris ). Effectivement c'est une question difficile, et idéalement il faudrait la régler avec les Wikipédiens des différents pays, nous ne sommes probablement pas assez nombreux ici.

La question est sensible pour moi car je suis en train de remplir massivement les carrières des joueurs de football, et selon la version linguistique à partir de laquelle j'importe mes données, j'ai des infos contradictoires. Un exemple parmi d'autres que je viens de voir passer : Javier Saviola (Q186071) a joué les Jeux olympiques de 2004 avec l'Argentine. Jouait-il avec Argentina national under-23 football team (Q2462207) (version anglaise) ou avec Q23881840 (version française) ? Et bien... les deux à la fois ! Bref... à suivre. --H4stings (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Your block of Abc82

Hi Andreasmperu, you should leave a message at User talk:Abc82 why you blocked this user. Multichill (talk) 20:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Actually, according to the blocking policy, I could do that, which I did, but it is definitely not a must. For the record, next time you find something that could be improved, go ahead and do it. I would not mind, and I am sure most editors wouldn't do either, since this is a wiki after all. Speaking about that, all the contributions of Abc82 need to be checked, so any help with that would be wonderful. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 04:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Ho ho hold on, nothing about policy here, no need to become defensive. It just wasn't clear why you blocked this user and it's good practice to explain to the blocked user why (s)he is blocked. This is a really weird case. It's not about the language, the user just doesn't seem to get it. Multichill (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

could you explain?

1. [3](wrong link) → [4]
2. difference between Wikimedia category (Q4167836) & Q23001807(see history) (which is a subclass of Wikimedia category (Q4167836))

does its difference would be used to automate categories infomessages by mediawiki? your thougths appretiated.--Avatar6 (talk) 05:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC) furthermore at admins--Avatar6 (talk) 05:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

If you have a question about an edit a bot has made, you should normally ask the person running the bot. However, since I know the answer: In Special:Diff/307230410, the last letter of the description was changed from a Latin script "a" into a Cyrillic script "а". - Nikki (talk) 14:05, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

what? am I speacking w'bots? what persong/user running your's at all? where I'm c'd convste wth real thinking person? 4 tht issue at least? how does cyrillic letter/script regards bot intertalking? Well, 4 thous, who w'l understand me - do yuor understand the difference btmn category:Sea & category:Seas ?--Avatar6 (talk) 19:01, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Avatar6, что вы тут такое городите? Сами указали на правку бота, не связанного с данной участницей, а потом что-то неграмотное пытаетесь сказать... --Infovarius (talk) 20:42, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Да, ссылка на диф ошибочно оформлена, вела на предыдущую правку, исправил. Но лучше по истории пройтись Category:Seas (Q6491872). Andreasmperu удалил(а) Q23001807 (категория экземпляров в проекте Викимедия) и откатил(а) множество связанных редакций,посчитав их бессмысленными. Вот и интересно - почему существование Q23001807 бессмысленно с ее т.з., если существует конкретная разница по его критерию между category:Sea & Category:Seas (Q6491872)

@Nikki:, terribly sorry for confusing you and all users, first diff was mistakingly linking to previous bot edit, correct diff is → [5] and other reverts regarding deletion of Q23001807, they all just reverts good editions, i.g. such as at Q23001807 (diff -[6]) so on.--Avatar6 (talk) 08:25, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

@Avatar6:, я вас понял. Yes, Andreas, why have you deleted Q23001807? It was a proper example of categories modelling. --Infovarius (talk) 07:46, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Because it did not comply with WD:N: there was no structural need for it. And worse: it implied a huge change of a widely used item as Wikimedia category (Q4167836) without any prior discussion. Also, I found that particular item while dealing with the troubled contributions of Abc82, which included a similar item as the aforementioned. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 16:07, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Lien entre Copy Editing et Secrétaire de rédaction

Bonjour, Je rétablis ce début de discussion que vous avez effacé, car le sujet n’est pas clos. J’avais écrit ceci :

Il semble que vous ayez supprimé le lien entre l’article anglais Copy Editing et l’article français Secrétaire de rédaction. Sans pour autant le remplacer par quelque chose de plus pertinent. Pouvez-vous m’expliquer pourquoi ? Palpalpalpal (talk) 16:18, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Vous m’avez répondu ceci :

@Palpalpalpal: copy editing (Q11759562) and copy editor (Q3477303) deal about different issues. Please check statements and descriptions before merging. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 18:03, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Je ne comprends pas votre réponse. Pouvez-vous me citer les différences essentielles que vous voyez entre un secrétaire de rédaction et un copy editor ? Les deux articles traitent du même sujet. Si le problème à vos yeux est que la version française l’aborde sous l’angle du travailleur quand la version anglaise l’aborde sous l’angle de la tâche, nous pourrions faire un lien entre « Secrétariat de rédaction » (qui redirige vers « Secrétaire de rédaction ») et « Copy Editor », non ? 86.246.133.5 15:31, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

One item is about an activity, the other about a profession; therefore, two different items for two different subjects. Please read the statements included in each item. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 17:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Fixes in Great Soviet Encyclopedia

Without a fix in the "name" field of Great Soviet Encyclopedia source in corresponding ruwiki article the reference isn't displayed correctly - title of the book ("Большая Советская Энциклопедия") is missing. It was decided to do this fix on a technical forum of Russian wikipedia. So, please, do not revert my edits. Illustr (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

@Illustr: Any change in Wikidata, must be discussed here and, therefore, decided in Wikidata, not elsewhere. Please stop adding wrong statements. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 20:53, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

As I understand, you mean changes of the property "name", adding volume and pages of the source doesn't need discussion. But why the "name" property format "name" // "book name" is not correct? Where is this specified? And where are rules, how wikidata reference is displayed in wikipedia (or more specificall Russian wikipedia), that I could change? Illustr (talk) 21:06, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

what is the purpose of "name" qualifier in this case if you think it is incorrect for absolutely correct identification of the source of statement? --Igel B TyMaHe (talk) 21:38, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

This really wrong. Value of title (P1476) must be only 'string', without 'links'. Definations all biblio-properties described there: Wikidata:WikiProject Books, also examples to use the property see in it and its Talk page. Also I replied at ruwiki. --Vladis13 (talk) 23:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

OK, I found another solution: instead of abstract property title (P1476) for encyclopedia article title we can use property section, verse, paragraph, or clause (P958). Illustr (talk) 09:05, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Andreasm, according description of title (P1476) it are "original title of a work, such as a newspaper article", but article title is not encyclopedia title. So I think, there must use P958 (or chapter (P792)). Also, see Wikidata:WikiProject Books#Qualifiers, there P1476 no in the list qualifiers for Sources. --Vladis13 (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

I do agree that title (P1476) is the best choice in this case. As for my edit, it was due to the addition of wikisyntax («Прешерн Франце // Большая Советская Энциклопедия» instead of just «Прешерн Франце»). Anyway, thanks for the help in this manner. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 15:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes. About P1476 is uncertainty, I opened Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#P1476_and_property_for_articles_titles_in_claims. --Vladis13 (talk) 23:06, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

scientific organisations

Andreas, how do you distinguish Q955824 and Q748019? There are many instances of both classes now, it seems they need re-distribution. --Infovarius (talk) 20:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

en:Alasdair Cochrane

Hi, Andreasmperu. Alasdair Cochrane is many thing including an author. He has written more than two books.

He is known for his work on animal rights from the perspective of political theory, which is the subject of his two books: An Introduction to Animals and Political Theory (2010, Palgrave Macmillan) and Animal Rights Without Liberation (2012, Columbia University Press)

Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 12:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Andreasmperu. Please explain why you are removing profession author from Alasdair Cochrane. He is an author too. Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 12:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Checkingfax: author (Q482980) is too general. political theorist (Q15994177) is a subclass of political writer (Q15958642) and theorist (Q18931911), which is a subclass of non-fiction writer (Q15980158), a subclass of writer (Q36180), and, therefore, a subclass of author (Q482980). Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 12:39, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Andreasmperu. A theorist is not a subset of a writer. That is ridiculous logic flow. Please stop edit warring. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 13:28, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Inspirations for... Q15632617

Hello, Andreasmperu. Referring to this – does Wikidata have any property to show real life individuals who was inspirations for a fictional human (Q15632617)? If we cannot use inspired by (P941), mayby we should use after a work by (P1877)? --WTM (talk) 20:21, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Portrait de Jean II

Bonjour, Je me permets de vous écrire en français, puisque votre profil indique que vous parlez ma langue. Vous avez effacé ma modification concernant le portrait de Jean II le Bon, sans m'en avertir ni en discuter avec moi. Il se trouve que la transcription de la légende du tableau était fausse : il est bien inscrit "Jehan, roy de France" en haut du portrait, et non "rey de France" ("rey" ne se rencontre d'ailleurs jamais à ma connaissance en ancien ou moyen français). Vérifiez vous-même, il est vrai que le "o" est est à demi-effacé, ce qui laisse penser qu'il s'agit d'un "e", mais c'est bien un "o". Vous pouvez également comparer avec le "e" de "Jehan" et avec celui de "de", vous verrez que les "e" du scribe ne ressemblent en rien au "o" du mot "roy" Bien cordialement--Altofonte (talk) 15:59, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Voice acting

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22920017 need to be merged with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2405480 --Ammar Alwaeli (talk) 13:57, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

No, they are different items. One is the profession, and the other the activity performed by that professional. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 14:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Q5685

According to the discussion page of P109 the signature is a unique property. Have you a different opinion on this matter?

Best regards --THE IT (talk) 13:49, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Kinship

About for example fraternal niece (Q23045278)... I know that properties like father (P22) were intended for specific persons, and there are constraints... But I see it quite useful to have such statements at such items - in order to clear their meaning and to give useful information to readers. We can add such items to exclusions. --Infovarius (talk) 15:06, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

@Infovarius: Please propose the change in the property talk page or other relevant space, where other users can comment about it. A change into the use of a property needs to be previously discussed. Thanks! Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 17:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Wrong use of properties

Hello, You sent me a message of wrong use of properties. The elements I modified were modified with contributors in France. If there are bad uses in several items I need an example to modify the others. Here are my last contributions https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JLZIMMERMANN Regards --JLZIMMERMANN (talk) 16:12, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

+1, could you elaborate, I looked into JLZIMMERMANN edits, there a bit unusual but I see nothing really wrong. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:49, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

@JLZIMMERMANN, VIGNERON: As suggested, please check Help:Basic membership properties, in particular, the section related to instance of (P31). As for an example, a taxi (Q82650) is not an instance of mode of transport (Q334166), but a subclass of vehicle (Q42889), which is in turn a subclass of mode of transport (Q334166). The item taxi (Q82650) does not deal about a unique item, so it cannot be an instance, but a subclass. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 17:09, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: Your answer is an explaination. I do not need an example unusefull (here speaking about a taxi Q82650) for me please give in my changes the good properties. My investigations are upon verbs. --JLZIMMERMANN (talk) 21:59, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

In French, as we all three speak French ;)

@JLZIMMERMANN: je pense que Andreasmperu fait référence à ton ajout de instance of (P31) sur prayer (Q40953) alors qu'il y avait déjà une subclass of (P279).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:29, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

I wonder

Can you tell me what the problem with this edit was? (Please {{Ping}} me; I'm not on Wikidata every day.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:41, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

We are discussing some of your edits at Wikidata:Project chat#Medical condition interwiki links. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:01, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Revert of Récit initiatique

Hi!

Your page says your English is better and I don't mind between French and English. You reverted my edit to link "Coming-of-age story" and "Récit initiatique", saying "Récit initiatique" was only about the literary concept, but the page for "Récit initiatique" in literature is the "Roman d'apprentissage" (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_d%27apprentissage). I should also edit the French page to make it more about the concept in movies and not just in books and mangas.

What do you think?

Vincent

unit of amount (Q2360980) and unit of amount (Q17259228)

Hi,

you reverted my merge. I don't see any difference between the items and the Wikipedia articles. I don't speak Norwegian, but I am pretty sure the article means units like a dozen (not sure what the English word for them is, but something like "counting-units", "unit of amount" which is "Stückmaß", "Zählmaß" or "Mengeneinheit" which I guess is the literal translation of Norwegian "Mengdeeining"). Wrong are the statements of unit of amount (Q2360980) since it is not part of a system of measurement (that would be unit prefix (Q15132612)) and it is not just a value either, since it often refers to specific types of things.--Debenben (talk) 22:38, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Napoléon Iᵉʳ → Napoléon Ier

Je recopie ce que j’ai dit sur w:fr:Wikipédia:Le Bistro/22 juillet 2016#Aide demandée (Wikidata) (de même que [7]):

Non! Il ne faut pas utiliser ᵃᵇᶜᵈᵉᶠᵍʰⁱʲᵏˡᵐⁿᵒᵖʳˢᵗᵘᵛʷˣʸᶻ comme lettres en exposant à la veux-tu en voilà.

Voir http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode9.0.0/ch07.pdf#page=36

Only those superscript or subscript forms that have specific usage in IPA, the Uralic Phonetic Alphabet (UPA), or other major phonetic transcription systems are encoded.

Ma traduction : Seul les formes supérieures et inférieures qui ont un usage spécifique dans l’API, l’Alphabet phonétique ouralien ou d’autres systèmes de transcription majeurs sont codés.

Voir aussi also http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode9.0.0/ch07.pdf#page=38

Superscript modifier letters are intended for cases where the letters carry a specific meaning, as in phonetic transcription systems, and are not a substitute for generic styling mechanisms for superscripting of text, as for footnotes, mathematical and chemical expressions, and the like.

Ma traduction : Les lettres modificatrices supérieures sont prévues pour les cas où les lettres ont un sens spécifique, tel que dans des systèmes de transcription phonétique, et ne sont pas un substitut à une mécanisme générique de mise en style pour la mise en exposant de texte, comme pour les appels de notes, les expressions mathématiques ou chimiques, et autres styles similaires.

--Moyogo (talk) 15:13, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

I do not see any discussion in here nor a consensus anywhere favouring your interpretation, so please do not make any change until that happens. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 16:04, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Can you point me to where the discussion to use Unicode characters for a usage they are explicitly discouraged is? --Moyogo (talk) 16:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Superscript modifier letters are intended for cases where the letters carry a specific meaning, as in phonetic transcription systems, and are not a substitute for generic styling mechanisms for superscripting of text. Just repeating. What is your interpretation of this passage? --Moyogo (talk)

@Andreasmperu: Please also see phab:T139573 where you can give your view, since that could be the discussion page suggested in phab:T43749#475002 by User:Daniel Kinzler (WMDE)=User:Duesentrieb. Oliv0 (talk) 08:24, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Greek mythology

Maybe you haven't seen my ping: I would like to thank you for creating mythological Greek character (Q22988604) and I want to ask your opinion about this. Best, --Epìdosis 17:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Präpositionalkasus vs. Präpositiv

Hallo Andreasmperu,

Präpositionalkasus und Präpositiv sind nicht synonym. Präpositionalkasus ist ein Begriff aus der allgemeinen Sprachwissenschaft, Präpositiv ein Begriff aus der Slavistik. Dem slavischen Präpositiv analoge Kasus, die ausschließlich mit Präpositionen verwendet werden, gibt es auch in manchen anderen Sprachen wie dem Irischen, aber beispielsweise nicht im Deutschen. en:Prepositional case behandelt verwirrenderweise den slavischen Präpositiv und analoge Kasus in anderen Sprachen. Der Unterschied wird im letzten Absatz ausgeführt: In many other languages, the term "prepositional case" is inappropriate, since the forms of nouns selected by prepositions also appear in non-prepositional contexts. For example, in English, prepositions govern the objective (or accusative) case, and so do verbs. In German, prepositions can govern the genitive, dative, or accusative, and none of these cases are exclusively associated with prepositions. Deshalb habe ich en:Prepositional case mit de:Präpositiv verknüpft und nicht mit de:Präpositionalkasus. Wörtliche Übersetzungen von Fachbegriffen führen manchmal schlicht in die Irre. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:02, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Marcello Giombini

Hi Andreasmperu. Concerning your edit here, please note what is written in it-wiki: it:Marcello Giombini#Biografia: "Nel 1958 aveva scritto il testo di alcuni racconti di fantascienza per la rivista Oltre il cielo (pubblicati anche in Francia), utilizzando lo pseudonimo Gianni Nebulosa". --FocalPoint (talk) 19:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

terminology

You seem to merge the wrong items and combined several statements that belonged to the other item, so I partly reverted you again. After some further editing now we have:

• terminology (Q8380731)    the vocabulary. Has several subclasses (e.g. nomenclature (Q863247)) and instances
• terminology (Q1725664)    the study of terminology (Q8380731). Has no subclasses or instances
• specialized terminology (Q1391494)    the language (contains terminology (Q8380731) but also other parts of a language. Has several subclasses and instances

I have also found another duplicate item and merged specialized terminology (Q7702837). Some instances and sites may still be connected to the wrong item but not many. -- JakobVoss (talk) 08:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

color blindness (Q133696)

Hello,

I have a question about your reverting my change. I was editing the items that can be traversed with subclass of (P279) down from vision disorder (Q7936184) (Wikidata Graph Builder). Both "color blindness"(color blindness (Q133696), MeSH) and "blindness"(blindness (Q10874), MeSH) are vision disorders, but "color blindness" is not a "blindness" (i.e. the former is a qualitative disorder and the latter is a quantitative one). So I removed the wrong claim from color blindness (Q133696). Even if a claim is wrong, shouldn't we remove a sourced claim? I have no idea what shoud I do. Thanks. --Okkn (talk) 11:59, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Ministère de l'Économie et des Finances

Hello, Why the English version of Ministère de l'Économie et des Finances (France), exists, but is not being linked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_the_Economy,_Finances_and_Industry_(France) ? --Nashjean (talk) 20:07, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

cheffe d'état

Bonjour, Le terme cheffe d'état est utilisé et me semble correct. En Suisse, cette fonction est utilisé: Liste de 2000 noms au masculin et au féminin. http://www.vd.ch/guide-typo3/le-texte/rediger-pour-le-web/redaction-egalitaire/2000-noms-au-masculin-et-au-feminin/ --LaMèreVeille (talk) 10:31, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@LaMèreVeille: tu n'avais pas mis « cheffe d'État » mais « femme d'État ». De plus, étrangement, tu l'avais mis en qualificateur de subclass of (P279). Les corrections par Andreasmperu me semblent correctes. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 16:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Need explanation of value removal

Hi,

I see that you removed Wikidata property for an identifier (Q19847637) from instance of (P31) on Mérimée ID (P380) and Palissy ID (P481). I'm not sure and this seems legit but could you explain me why you did this?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 16:35, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: Sure! Both of them are instances of Wikidata property for authority control for cultural heritage (Q18618628), which in turn is a subclass of Wikidata property for authority control (Q18614948), a subclass of Wikidata property for an identifier (Q19847637), so the information is redundant. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 16:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

And indeed it's legit, now it's seems obivous to me. Thank you. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 16:48, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Need help

Hi (again),

Right now we have :

• ⟨ exhibition curator (Q780596)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ curator (Q674426)    ⟩

and

• ⟨ curator (Q674426)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ exhibition curator (Q780596)    ⟩

This doesn't seems right to me. I think only the first one is right but as you can see the label in French are quite different (but maybe the labels are wrong...).

Can you take a look at it and tell me what you think?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 16:59, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Fiction, fantastique and stuff

Greetings! I have a few questions about fiction genres

1. Is it necessary to have both alternate history (Q224989) and alternate history literature (Q16681629)? Ukwiki uses template that retrieves genre (P136) of literary works, and in case alternate history literature (Q16681629) it can't retrieve link to article.
2. Can we agree to use elements like short story (Q49084) and novel (Q8261) in property instance of (P31) not in genre (P136)? It's again related to use of template which will show something like "genre: science fiction, short story and horror fiction", for example. I know that short story (Q49084) and novel (Q8261) usually described like genres, but it's not usual to see them in genre field, since they basically describe size of work.
3. Which one of elements speculative/fantastic fiction (Q5967378) or speculative/fantastic fiction (Q2387832) will be used on wikidata to encapsulate all fiction genres?

--Similartothissimilartothat 13:03, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree with 2 at least. I suppose we should separate genres which describe type of themes and "genres" which describe form of size of the work. It is also applicable to films. I cannot acquire that "animation film" is a genre, I'd use it as "P31". --Infovarius (talk) 14:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

@Similartothissimilartothat: Please stop right now with edits like this one. No mass edits should be done before reaching a consensus, and this is not the place to do so. Please voice your opinion in Wikidata:WikiProject Books or WD:PC and wait to receive feedback from other users. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 19:56, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

As for speculative/fantastic fiction (Q5967378) and speculative/fantastic fiction (Q2387832), there are not the same and neither of them encapsulates all fiction genres, but some of them. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 19:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

These items are merged... --Infovarius (talk) 14:03, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Subclasses of occupation (Q12737077)

Andreasmperu, I am a bit confused about the subclasses of occupation (Q12737077) and profession (Q28640). There are plenty, but sportspersons are not allowed apperently. After looking into this a little more in detail I would agree with your revert, yet I am surprised how messi this structure looks like. Am I getting this right that there should not be many subclasses of occupation (Q12737077) and profession (Q28640)? Regards, MisterSynergy (talk) 14:14, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Q707774

Hoi,
Mag ik je op de:Diskussion:Arterielle_Thrombose#Interwiki wijzen? Op de ogenblik ageer je tegen de linie van die discussie. Maar je bent uitgenodigd, op de consens invloed te nemen.
Groet, Ciciban

Een andere gebruiker heeft het probleem opgelost door een stub onder de:Koronarthrombose te beginnen, die nu met Q707774 verbonden is en heeft bovendien Q27574395 voor de:Arterielle Thrombose ingericht. Daarme is het probleem in mijn ogen opgelost.
Groet, Ciciban (talk) 15:24, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Ayuda en «Carolina Sanín» (Q5753276)

¡Hola! Quería avisarle que la página está siendo fuertemente vandalizada. Ya se ha bloqueado la página en es.wiki y necesito lo mismo aquí. El problema es que no conozco el sitio donde pedir esto. Desde ya, muchas gracias. --Gastón Cuello (talk) 11:22, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

User:ValterVB me acusó de vándalo cuando no lo era. --Gastón Cuello (talk) 12:23, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I see now the automatic object of the edit. I don't think that you are a vandal, I just reverted all the changes of the last two days. Now I have hided the object. --ValterVB (talk) 13:10, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Novellas

Hola, me temo que has estado erróneamente eliminando las "instance of:novella" de varias de ellas que he estado añadiendo estos últimos días. Estos trabajos literarios forman parte de las listas de novellas (habitualmente traducidos como "novelas cortas", aunque en realidad son una categoría de ficción breve de entre 17.500 y 40.000 palabras) de Hugo Award for Best Novella y Nebula Award for Best Novella, que evidentemente son listas de novellas, no listas de novelas ni listas de short stories o novelettes (y mucho menos listas de libros). En algunos casos has puesto el valor "book" a obras literarias que no han sido publicadas como libros (y por lo tanto no tienen ISBN o cualquier otra referencia bibliográfica equivalente), o que lo han sido mucho después pero que la edición primera y premiada y a la que se refiere el objeto es la que se publicó en revistas de género (como se puede ver en la propiedad "published in") y por lo tanto carecen de una identidad bibliográfica individual equivalente a la de un libro. Si tienes alguna duda sobre algún caso en concreto sobre cuál fue la primera edición, puedes consultar la Internet Speculative Fiction Data Base, fuente de alta reputación en la materia y que es la que he estado utilizando para completar los datos de todas estas obras literarias de ficción breve. En otros casos has eliminado totalmente la propiedad "instance of" sin sustituirla por nada ¿?. Me gustaría saber si hay algún motivo para estas eliminaciones, porque le he estado dedicando mucho tiempo a arreglar el desaguisado que hay montado y no quiero dedicarle más tiempo a encima tener que corregirlo otra vez. Saludos. --JavierCantero (talk) 15:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

@JavierCantero: Hola, disculpa no haberte dejado un mensaje ayer, pero me quedé sin conexión. Puedes revisar Wikidata:WikiProject Books para tener una idea más clara. En cuanto a las ediciones mencionadas, instance of (P31) debe ser book (Q571) u literary work (Q7725634). novella (Q149537), novel (Q8261) y short story (Q49084) son instancias de literary genre (Q223393), por tanto deben ser incluidas como declaraciones de genre (P136), no como instance of (P31). Espero haber sido de ayuda. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 12:11, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: Gracias por tu información, y sí has sido de mucha ayuda. Lo que pasa es que no sé como actuar, porque lo correcto es que novella (Q149537), novelette (Q472808), novel (Q8261) y short story (Q49084) fueran subclases de literary work (Q7725634) (preferentemente dentro de una subclase general de prosa para separarla de la poesía) y no géneros. Es la única forma de que un premio como por ejemplo Locus Award for Best Novelette (Q17008964) tenga definida una is a list of (P360) que asegure que lo que ahí se incluye son del tipo correcto, cosa que utilizando una propiedad como genre (P136) es imposible de controlar. --JavierCantero (talk) 16:31, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Theban kings in Greek mithology

Hi, the italian article "Mitologia di Tebe" ("Mythology of Thebes") tells about a lot of more things than just the kings of Thebes, but it does contain the list of the kings, at the end. It's the telling of the story of Thebes, not only the list of the kings but also "what happened". Do you think it must be deleted anyway from the wikidata page? --Borgil (nin á quetë) 16:53, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

@Borgil: Hi, any issue about contents or titles must be dealt in each Wikipedia. mythology of Thebes (Q3974424) deals about mythology in general, not just about the figure of the king of Thebes (Q13533319) or a lis of the kings (Theban kings in Greek mythology (Q1153636)), so it must have its own independent item. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 17:01, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

A Request & my appologies

Dear User:Andreasmperu,

Ah, thank god you contacted me! I did not know how to contact you, so I wrote to wikipedia administrators who helped a bit. But I knew it was not all.

First, I am terribly sorry to have messed things up! I panicked so bad after I did that, I wrote to a number of users to help . . . sorry. No experience with wikidata.

Second, here is what I was trying to correct, which I must ask you to correct for me:

The English wiki page "Myth" is now linked to a redirect page in Farsi wiki. It is the correct redirect page alright, and redirects us to the correct Farsi page. But it is technically preferable to Link "Myth" in the English wiki to the main page of "افسانه" in Farsi wiki.

Another problem which is related to this is that the page "Legend" in the English wiki is wrongly linked to that same main page of ours which is supposed to be linked to "Myth". "Legend" has to be linked to the Farsi page "قصه".

Could you possibly fix this? The root of the problem came from a mis-translation in Farsi (Persian) wiki. Sorry.Salarabdolmohamadian (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Request of check

Hey, can you please check some of my last edits? And also the page Q27999130. Thanks! --Martinligabue (talk) 19:09, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Fecha de publicación de The Man in the High Castle

La fecha de publicación de The Man in the High Castle (Q749783) es October 1962. La Wikipedia en inglés estaba equivocada en este caso (pero ya está corregida). --JavierCantero (talk) 21:12, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Idioma drusnio

Hola Andreasmperu, se podría eliminar esto es un idioma inventado por el usuario Piterleik, en es:wiki y en en:wiki ya se ha borrado el artículo. Saludos Tarawa1943 (talk) 20:40, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Kunstschilderes

Hello, you reverted my edit here, but this edit was made at the request of the Dutch gendergap workgroup. By whose authority are you stating that this is the correct Dutch usage of the term? Please be aware that the Wikidata terms must reflect modern language, not antiquated language. Jane023 (talk) 07:14, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind. On the advice of someone else I just entered the correct form. Jane023 (talk) 18:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Why have you reverted my edits?

Hi, Andreasmperu. I do not understand why my edits have to be reverted... what's wrong with these edits? Thanks.--Peprovira (talk) 17:17, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Reversiones sin motivo

Hola Andreasmperu. Quería saber porque has revertido mis ediciones en wikidata. No me parecen reversiones justificadas. Creo que en tus ediciones posteriores mezclas conceptos.

En concreto veo los siguientes errores:

• Confundes el Horsepower o w:es:Caballo de fuerza (término que se decidió después de esta discusión) con el w:es:Caballo de vapor (que en los países hispanohablantes no es equivalente al horsepower) o con w:es:Caballo de potencia que hace referencia a los dos (en inglés Horsepower se usa para ambos, pero en español no porque Horsepower se refiere solo al caballo de fuerza británico).
• w:es:Divisa: no es lo mismo Divisa de marca o distintivo que Divisa de moneda extranjera. El artículo hace referencia a divisa como moneda extranjera, que en inglés es currency. Lo había corregido pero lo has revertido.
• w:es:Economía estaba asociado a economics (ciencias económicas) y no a economy (economía). El artículo habla de economía y no de ciencias económicas.
• w:es:Tejido (textil) estaba asociado a woven fabric, que es un tipo de tejido y no un textile.

Solicito la restauración de los cambios que has revertido por no encontrar motivo para la reversión. --Tximitx (talk) 21:18, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Corrijo mi comentario anterior. En el caso de w:es:Economía sí que estaba correcto y por tanto la reversión estaba justificada. En el resto sigo sin ver la justificación. --Tximitx (talk) 21:47, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

asking for explanation of revert…

Could you please briefly explain this revert? I do not see a “Wrong use of the property”. Thanks, MisterSynergy (talk) 18:58, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

This is a kind reminder that I still wait for an answer here. I’ve recently spent a lot of effort into structural items in the field of sports, and I planned to continue with sportsperson occupations, but also sports competitions, sports disciplines, etc. There is unfortunately nobody else how systematically works in this field, and things become increasingly complicated to fix if we wait any longer.

However, I am still frustrated about this revert without any useful explanation. “Wrong use of the property” does not explain anything, it is an undo comment as useful as a revert without any comment. Since you typically have a good idea about what we do here, I would like to see why you don’t think that this is a correct use of the property. Item type and value type are both correct. Thanks and regards, MisterSynergy (talk) 13:11, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about not replying, but I thought you would have noticed this. I corrected my edit before you left me the first message. I made a mistake by confusing it with a different property. Regards, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 13:36, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh I’m sorry, I did not see that until now. I should’ve looked more closely at your activities and the edit history of the items. Thanks for your answer and kind regards (and sorry for the little uproar here as well), MisterSynergy (talk) 15:19, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Reversiones

No entiendo tu reversión Solo agrego la propiedad publicado en que es lo que corresponde, Graham's Magazine, que no es una editorial, agrego enlace a wikisource como los demas en ingles, italiano etc., cual es el problema con wikisource en español? Shooke (talk) 01:34, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Cada edición de una obra requiere un elemento independiente. El enlace a Wikisource en español es una traducción (versión) de la obra original, no la obra original, por lo que no corresponde allí. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Pero entonces no corresponde ninguna de las traducciones de wikisource en otros idiomas, no solo deberias borrar el enlace en español, a eso me refieron no? Por otro lado, fijate que fue publicado en Graham's Magazine, que no es editorial. Saludos Shooke (talk) 01:46, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Aclaración de conceptos

Veo que tienes algunos errores de uso de términos en español. Te los voy a aclarar.

• En español no existe ningún título (universitario o no) de profesor (teacher). Sí existe el título de catedrático (professor), que además no es un título solo de los Países Bajos. Que Professor se parezca escrito a Profesor, no quiere decir que la traducción de Pofessor sea Profesor, ya que teacher (profesor) y professor (catedrático) son cosas distintas. Te lo pondré más claro: https://es.oxforddictionaries.com/traducir/ingles-espanol/professor

• Divisa en español es cualquier unidad motearia, sea extranjera o no. Igual que currency. Que en español se use más "moneda" que "divisa" para referirse a las unidades monetarias y que ese término no se use en otros idiomas, no quiere decir que "divisa" se use solo para monedas extranjeras y que sea distinto de "currency". Para ser más exactos, moneda es la pieza metálica de una divisa y divisa es cualquier unidad monetaria, aunque en español moneda se use también como sinónimo de divisa.

• En cuanto a las fracciones monetarias de centavo, céntimo, cetésimo y cent, veo que también tienes bastante confusión. Los centavos no son céntimos ni los céntimos son centavos. No hay céntimos de dólar sino centavos de dólar, ni tampoco hay centavos de bolivar venezolano sino céntimos de Bolivar venezolano. Tampoco existen los centavos ni los céntimos de Balboa panameño, sino centésimos de Balboa panameño. En el caso del euro, en español no existen ni los centavos de euro, ni los centésimos de euro, ni los eurocent, sino solo los cent, que es el nombre oficial de la fracción monetaria del euro en todos los idiomas, o céntimo de euro, que es la única traducción al español válida. En otros idiomas se utilizará centavo, centésimo o eurocent (cada país tiene sus costumbres), pero en español todos esos nombres son incorrectos. Por otra parte, la denominación conjunta de todas esas fracciones monetarias, que en otros idiomas denominan cent, en español no es ni centavo ni céntimo, sino centésimo (además de ser el nombre utilizado en algunos países para su fracción, también es el nombre genérico en español de todas las fracciones monetaria). Tampoco es cent, cuya palabra en español no existe más que para referirse a la fracción del euro. En otros idiomas ese nombre genérico es céntimo (como en catalán, euskera o portugués). Es decir, que centésimo es cualquier fracción monetaria de cualquier moneda.

Por otra parte, antes de revertir las ediciones de manera masiva como estás haciendo, sería de agradecer que contactaras conmigo para conocer los motivos de mis ediciones si no estás de acuerdo con ellas. No hay más ignorante que aquel que cree que tiene la razón siempre. En algunos casos tendrás tu la razón y en otros no, pero las páginas de discusión están precisamente para aclarar las diferencias. Con tu actitud de revertir todo lo que consideras equivocado sin preguntar a nadie nada (no hay más que ver que tu página de discusión está llena de quejas, que además respondes cuando te parece), lo único que demuestras es o que eres una persona frustrada que vierte sus frustraciones en wikidata deshaciendo el trabajo de otros, o peor aún, que eres una persona altiva que cree que sus conocimientos son superiores a los de los demás. Puede que esté equivocado y sea solo una impresión mía, pero si mi página de discusión estuviera llena de quejas como la tuya, yo me preguntaría si tengo algún problema para que mis ediciones fueran tan discutidas. Probablemente tenga mucho que ver tu actitud de revertir todo lo que consideras incorrecto sin consultar antes a nadie para aclarar las posibles diferencias. --Tximitx (talk) 09:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

No lo sé todo, pero cuando algo no sé, me informo. Por favor, haga lo propio con respecto a las políticas de Wikidata que no son las mismas que la Wikipedia en español. Por poner un ejemplo, aquí se emplea como etiqueta el nombre más común y no necesariamente el oficial o el más completo. Asimismo, es necesario revisar todos los enlaces y las afirmaciones incluidas en cada elemento antes de proceder a una fusión (de forma que sea evidente que no se trata de dos cosas diferentes). Lamento no tener tiempo para ayudarle a resolver más dudas. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 18:15, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Ya sé que las políticas de wikidata son distintas de Wikipedia en español, pero en wikidata los títulos y los alias deben corresponder con los términos correctos. Por ejemplo, aunque la palabra "profesor" tenga su origen en el latín professor, su significado difiere totalmente en español y en otros idiomas. Es español, profesor es solo una persona que se dedica a la enseñanza (teacher), y no existe ningún título de profesor ni existe el profesor universitario. Lo que sí existe es el título de catedrático y los catedráticos universitarios, que es lo que en otros idiomas llaman professor. Por tanto Catedrático no es solo el término más común para referirse a ese título, sino que es el único correcto en español ya que profesor es otra cosa.

Lo mismo sucede con términos como eurocent o centésimo de euro, que no solo no son comunes sino que ni si quiera existen en español. Podría seguir con otros términos planteados, pero veo que usted prefiere revertir e imponer su criterio como si su criterio fuera el único valido, en lugar de dedicar tiempo a responder las dudas planteados y aclarar los conceptos. Puede que de lo que no sepa se informe, pero veo que de lo que cree que sabe no se informa nada y prefiere tener la razón en lugar de dudar si la tiene. --Tximitx (talk) 12:21, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Tximitx: (off-topic) it's curious that you are teaching Spanish to Spanish native speaker... I see this a little bit impolite. --Infovarius (talk) 12:15, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

@Infovarius: I'm also a Spanish native speaker. --Tximitx (talk) 13:01, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Si tuviera dudas al respecto, terminaría en una crisis existencial. Por suerte, el diccionario es un buen lugar para buscar la definición de profesor. Y si no fuera suficiente, basta hacer la búsqueda "profesor universitario" en Google Libros para que aparezcan tantas opciones (un solo ejemplo: Estudios en homenaje al profesor Pérez de Ayala). Como siempre es posible que quienes escriben libros no sepan de qué hablan, mejor buscar en la primera universidad que se venga a mente y quizás sea posible encontrar un "escalafón profesoral" con varias categorías de profesores. En fin, se perdona la ignorancia que no la necedad, pues esta suele conllevar una pérdida absurda de tiempo para otras personas y eso es simplemente inconcebible. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 00:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Efectivamente, el diccionario es un buen lugar para buscar la definición de profesor: Persona que ejerce o enseña una ciencia o arte. Casualmente muy parecida a la definición de teacher en, por ejemplo, Oxford dictionary [8]. Luego aparece profesor adjunto, profesor agregado, profesor asociado y profesor numerario, ninguno de los cuales es el highest academic rank at universities and other post-secondary education and research institutions, definición que sí coincide con catedrático, denominación que también casualmente es la misma que utiliza, por ejemplo, Oxford dictionary [9]. También podemos hacer una búsqueda en Google Libros de "profesor universitario" (337 000 resultados), igual que podemos hacer una búsqueda de "university teacher" (4 590 000 resultados), y entre los muchos resultados que nos aparecen en la primera búsqueda, podemos descubrir que el profesor (como persona dedicada a la enseñanza) Pérez de Ayala es: Catedrático Emérito de Hacienda Pública y Derecho Financiero en la Universidad San Pablo CEU de Madrid. Como siempre es posible que quienes escriben libros no sepan de qué hablan, y efectivamente podemos ir a la primera universidad que venga a mente y buscar su "escalafón profesoral", por ejemplo, en la misma que usted [10], y así encontramos que hay profesor instructor, profesor asistente, profesor asociado y profesor titular, como personas dedicadas a la enseñanza en la universidad, y también están los catedráticos [11] como highest academic rank at universities and other post-secondary education and research institutions.

"Donde hay soberbia, allí habrá ignorancia; más donde hay humildad, habrá sabiduría." (Salomón). --Tximitx (talk) 02:55, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Proposal for simplification: consistency, gender-neutrality and age-neutrality

I am sorry for ignoring your earlier warnings. I stopped mass editing articles and I have started a discussion here to reach consensus first. Did I place it on the correct location? And could you please take a look? Thank you. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 14:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Property instance of (P31) with class disease (Q12136)

Please do not remove instance of (P31) statements from items of diseases without the community consensus. There have already been more than 8700 items which have property instance of (P31) with class disease (Q12136) in wikidata.

And in my opinion, it is useful to make all items of diseases have a "instance of (P31) disease (Q12136)" claim, when querying a list of diseases.

Thanks. --Okkn (talk) 10:57, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@Okkn: As far as I was concerned, this has already been discussed (see User talk:ProteinBoxBot#subclass_relationships). Comfort is not a reason to add wrong statements, specially if it is also possible to query with subclass. Maybe it would be a good idea to propose the subject at Wikiproject:Medicine. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 12:39, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

I agree that, strictly speaking, specific diseases like influenza (Q2840) are not instance of (P31) disease (Q12136). influenza (Q2840) should be a instance of (P31) an item like "disease class" or "disease type", instead of disease (Q12136), right?

But I think it is not a good idea to simply remove instance of (P31) claims individually. There are lots of items of diseases in Wikidata and most of them have "instance of (P31) disease (Q12136)", so their ontology should be managed all together. --Okkn (talk) 13:59, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Can I revert your edits for removing P31 claims once? --Okkn (talk) 02:29, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I am not the only one who thinks instance of (P31) is not appropriate for most cases. You just agreed that they are incorrect statements, but nonetheless want to keep them for practical reasons. That does not make any sense to me, so I believe the only option is to bring the issue to a broader discussion (I already mentioned Wikiproject:Medicine, but the Project Chat would do too). Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:42, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

No. It's not my practical reason. Items of diseases are managed by participants of Wikiproject:Medicine by using their bots, and, at present, they use P31 in many many items of diseases. So your edits for deleting P31 in only a small part of them is just a destruction of the integrity of the data, even if your edit is logically correct. Furthermore, the best solution is not removing P31 claims, but changing their values to the proper class item, I think. If you want to remove P31 claims from disease items, you should propose it in Wikiproject:Medicine or the Project Chat, shouldn't you? --Okkn (talk) 03:16, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Q1391017

Hi (unfortunately my Spanish is really bad)! Probably the removal of the Italian article and description in natural sciences (Q1391017) is not the right solution, but the different articles I checked, especially Englisch, Italian and German, cannot be considered to be about the same thing! I have no idea how this could be improved, but right now it is chaos. Regards--XanonymusX (talk) 13:02, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@XanonymusX: Hi! I think it's sorted. The Italian sitelink seems to belong in educational sciences (Q3475773), so I just moved it there. In the future, remember that sitelinks should not be removed unless they are added to another item (either an existing or a new one). Feel free to drop me a line in case you have any more doubts. Regards, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:53, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

comic book (Q3185361)

You reverted the statement comic book (Q3185361)subclass of (P279)comics (Q1004). The latter contains other subclasses such as comic book (Q1760610), comic book album (Q2831984), comic genre (Q20087698), comic format (Q26971562), so comic book (Q3185361) would fit to subsume all comic-publications. We could introduce an artificial item "comic publication" separate from "comic (as form of art)" but I doubt that this distinction is practical neither used in other areas. P.S: I'd guess that most would that a comic published periodically is also a comic journal. -- JakobVoss (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Short stories/novels

Hola. I see you reverted my edits on Q7108818, Q9523805 and Q990937. I am quite certain that what in the Scandinavian languages is called "novelle" etc. is equivalent to English "short story" (English "novel" is equivalent to Scandinavian "roman"). I think Scandinavian here follows roughly the French terminology. The French (authors of) "contes", which was (and now again is) linked with "short story" etc., I think is not equivalent to e.g. Spanish "cuento", although obviously etymologically the same word. You might compare with the categories for individual countries, e.g. Q8788285, and see that it is done the way I tried to do for the general category (Spanish cuentistas=English short story writers=French (and Scandinavian) nouvellistes). --Wikijens (talk) 22:48, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Your removal of Wikidata property for an identifier (Q19847637)

I wonder why? I thought it was exactly that. Jonathan Groß (talk) 06:33, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

@Jonathan Groß: Because it was already included as an instance of (P31) Wikidata property for authority control for people (Q19595382), which is a subclass of Wikidata property for authority control (Q18614948), which is a subclass of Wikidata property for an identifier (Q19847637). Regards, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 06:41, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up! Cheers, Jonathan Groß (talk) 06:44, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Lawrence of Rome (Q17590)

Hi Andreas: I am still a newby with this but I added a identifier to Iconclass http://iconclass.org/rkd/11H%28LAURENCE%29/ to this item (as 2001:1C00:160F:E200:D163:F111:230D:456B). Could you explain what is wrong with that? Thank you. --ReemW (talk) 18:40, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Not cool

That's not vandalism. You should not "revert", but "undo" and explain the reason in the edit summary. Basic stuff. Strakhov (talk) 02:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot, you are not used to explain your actions. Strakhov (talk) 02:05, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Notificación de traducción: Wikidata:Glossary

Hola, Andreasmperu:

Has recibido esta notificación porque te inscribiste como traductora de español y francés en Wikidata. La página Wikidata:Glossary está disponible para su traducción. Puedes traducirla aquí:

• traducir al español
• traducir al francés

La prioridad de esta página es media.

=============================

Dear translator! Page "Wikidata:Glossary" was updated and reorganized. This page is very important for understanding Wikidata. Please check and update your translations ASAP!

--User:Kaganer

=============================

Agradecemos enormemente tu ayuda. Traductores como tú hacen que Wikidata funcione como una verdadera comunidad multilingüe.

Puedes cambiar tus preferencias de notificación.

¡Gracias!

Los coordinadores de traducción de Wikidata‎, 22:38, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Notificación de traducción: Wikidata:Wiktionary/Sitelinks

Hola, Andreasmperu:

Has recibido esta notificación porque te inscribiste como traductora de español y francés en Wikidata. La página Wikidata:Wiktionary/Sitelinks está disponible para su traducción. Puedes traducirla aquí:

• traducir al español
• traducir al francés

Agradecemos enormemente tu ayuda. Traductores como tú hacen que Wikidata funcione como una verdadera comunidad multilingüe.

Puedes cambiar tus preferencias de notificación.

¡Gracias!

Los coordinadores de traducción de Wikidata‎, 18:28, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Q8205328

How do you note with a constraint that this element is not instantiable ?--Pixeltoo (talk) 19:42, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

revert of 1Q84 P31

Hi @Andreasmperu:, it appears that you just reverted my edit to set 1Q84 (Q208971) → instance of (P31) → book series (Q277759), and while I can see how this might be controversial as several editions where published as one unique book, it seems that the original publication was indeed 3 separate volumes, and that many editions where published also considering those as separate books (see Book 1, Book 2, Book 3). The later unique editions would thus register in my opinion as composite editions of multiple works (e.g isbn:9780307476463). What make you think 1Q84 (Q208971) should absolutely be a book (Q571)? Bests -- Maxlath (talk) 07:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Reversión: Information Science Q16387

Hola Andreasmperu: hace unos días incluí una descripción más detallada sobre el topico Ciencia de la Información en español y recibí la notificación sobre su reversión a una descripción más general sobre este ítem. Me gustaría saber ¿cuáles son tus criterios para realizar esta acción? Considero que para esta área del conocimiento es muy fácil confundirla con las Ciencias de la información o las ciencias de la comunicación que se ocupan del estudio de los medios de comunicación. No obstante una descripción tan general podría propiciar la ambigüedad sobre este ítem ¿qué opinas?. Estaré atento a tu respuesta. Saludos (C3r098 (talk) 14:50, 4 July 2017 (UTC))

La descripción estaba mal redactada y era demasiado larga. Por favor, revisa WD:D: las descripciones deben ser cortas y servir para desambiguar elementos con las mismas o similares etiquetas. Saludos, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 00:13, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Not a book

Bonjour Andreasmperu

La modification Not a book pourrait poser problème pour le rendu du modèle mːbibliographie sur Wikiversité. Sauf si le modèle a été corrigée pour fonctionner avec des paramètres autres que "ouvrage/livre". Vu le nombre d'ouvrages que je saisis, j'ai besoin de paramètres fiables ː d'une manière générale, ce sont les ouvrages/livres qui m'intéressent. Je m'aventure rarement vers d'autres critères afin de sécuriser ma bibliographie à partir des éléments Wikidata. Merci de vérifier que les modifications que vous apportez n'impacte pas le rendu sur Wikiversité. --Ambre Troizat (talk) 14:43, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ambre Troizat: Je ne comprends pas le problem. Revue des Deux Mondes (Q1569226) n'est pas un livre, mais une revue scientifique, de sorte que votre édition a ajouté information incorrecte. S'il y a un problème avec Wikiversty, cela devrait être résolu en Wikiversité. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:13, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

About interchanging Q11348 and Q629085 as superclasses

function (Q11348) is a basic concept, often it is defined as single-valued transformation. So multivalued function (Q629085) is a generalisation and include function (Q11348) as subclass (though it is called "multivalued function", i.e. seemingly some kind of function). --Infovarius (talk) 03:55, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

@Infovarius: My bad. Thank you very much for paying attention. I was going to bother you before because I needed help to clarify an item that only has Slavic labels, but then I got carried away and now I cannot find the item. Hope it doesn't annoy you if I come back to that later on. Regards, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:01, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Estado soberano

Hola. No entiendo por qué has revertido mi edición "estado soberano", al no ser un nombre propio no lleva mayúscula. ¿Hay algo que se me escape? --{{subst:Usuario:Roberpl/Firma}} 06:33, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Las mayúsculas no son obligatorias únicamente con los nombres propios. Hay muchos otros casos; por ejemplo: DPD Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 06:43, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Mafia film

Hi there. I added the language link en. "Mafia film" to it. "Mafia nel cinema" but it is gone now. I tried to add it back but gives me Error: $1? Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Why have you done it with "Organized crime in Italy" now?? Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 18:33, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for using the talk page. I can somewhat see what you mean about "Mafia in Italia" vs "Organized crime in Italy", however, I strongly believe "Filmogafia sulla mafia" and "Mafia film" are pages on the same topic. The only difference is the Italian page is more of a list article, while the English page has paragraph information as well, however both pages have potential to include the same info. I am awaiting your response. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 21:45, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

List pages are separated from normal pages in Wikidata, so it is not right to merged such items. Only identical items should be merge. Here is the page with relevant information on how to merge items: Help:Merge Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:07, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Arteria femoralis

Dein revert ist fachlich leider inkorrekt: femoralis ist das Adjektiv zu femur, und das ist lateinisch der Oberschenkel, also der Beinabschnitt zwischen Hüfte und Knie. Das Os femoris ist der Oberschenkelknochen, er wird manchmal auch verkürzt Femur genannt. Aber das Blutgefäß hat mit dem Knochen, mit Ausnahme einer unbedeutender Versorgungsäste und einer ähnlichen Lage (beide sind Teil des Oberschenkels) nichts zu tun. Das kannst du einem habilitierten Anatomen ruhig glauben. Gruß --Uwe Gille (talk) 08:10, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Das ist richtig. Danke schön, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:00, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Reversiones en identificador BNA de autoridad

Buenas! Te escribo por estás reversiones: 1, 2, 3, y 4. BNMM authority ID (P3788) está restringido a un valor único, pero la base de datos contiene errores (por ejemplo hay 57 Jorge Luis Borges, uno común, y luego con el agregado del título de sus obras) y en algunas casos criterios diferentes como que a parte de la entrada principal, los alias también poseen ID. Desde que cargamos en Mix'n'Match, vengo controlando las constraints para solventar estos casos y que solo quede el ID principal de la persona, y no los adicionales. Saludos! --Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 02:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Entiendo. Ya que has encontrado un problema con la propiedad, ¿te molestaría dejar un comentario en la página de discusión? De esa manera, otros editores encontrarán la explicación más fácilmente. Gracias, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:45, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

seamanship (Q351363) vs marine navigation (Q3337280)

• [12]

It depends on how close the topics in different languages need to match in order to be considered the same item. The general principle of interwiki linking is that where topics are close matches with no conflicting alternatives, multiple similar topics should be linked together even if they don't cover exactly the same scope. Looking at those two items, both are about "how to drive a boat correctly", and there are no overlaps in their language links, so merging is the preferable option to help readers find information in different languages. Deryck Chan (talk) 09:24, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

¡Gracias!

¡Saludos, Andreasmperu, desde la Ciudad de México! --Gustavo (Editrocito or Heme aquí) 08:50, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

"Neapolitan language" article sitelinked to Italian article "Dialetto napoletano"

Hi Andreasmperu,

While it may seem that the English "Neapolitan language" article and the Italian "Dialetto napoletano" article are counterparts, this is in fact not really the case. The "Neapolitan language" article deals with the various related southern continental Italian dialects, which correlates with the Italian Wikipedia article "Dialetti italiani meridionali". The "Dialetto napoletano" Italian article deals specifically with the dialect spoken in the Naples area, not the whole southern continental Italian language group. There is no correlating English article dealing only with the "Neapolitan dialect" on English Wikipedia. Madreterra (talk) 22:07, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Parent peak

Hi! Just to be sure, what do you mean by "??" :) — Poulpy (talk) 09:16, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo

Perdona, pero ni la tal Gemma ni Desiré nosequé han sido oficialmente pareja de Cristiano Ronaldo. Así que agradecería que no volvieses a revertir mis ediciones o, en su defecto, aportases referencias apropiadas que confirmen dichas relaciones. --Badefa (talk) 17:54, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Pointless

use (Q1724915) is defined as subject item of has use (P366)

So we shouldn't care if most or none articles refer to function(s) and use(s) only in engineering.

An activity that is natural to or the purpose of a person or thing

All P31 claims with Q1724915 are correct, including residence (Q699405).

"место жительства" is not about "type of building" but a legal term. All of your comments are irrelevant to Q699405. d1g (talk) 06:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

место жительства - жилой дом, квартира, комната, жилое помещение специализированного жилищного фонда либо иное жилое помещение, в которых гражданин постоянно или преимущественно проживает в качестве собственника, по договору найма (поднайма), договору найма специализированного жилого помещения либо на иных основаниях, предусмотренных законодательством Российской Федерации, и в которых он зарегистрирован по месту жительства. Местом жительства гражданина, относящегося к коренному малочисленному народу Российской Федерации, ведущего кочевой и (или) полукочевой образ жизни и не имеющего места, где он постоянно или преимущественно проживает, в соответствии с настоящим Законом может быть признано одно из поселений, находящихся в муниципальном районе, в границах которого проходят маршруты кочевий данного гражданина

@Andreasmperu: any comments about bolded text above? Revert your edits to Q699405 otherwise. d1g (talk) 06:25, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

The legal meaning seems to be limited to Russian, so a new item needs to be created in order to include the Russian sitelink and the different meaning. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 07:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: it was used in USSR, so account 15 countries at least. How different "Estonian" definition from "Russian"? d1g (talk) 13:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Q1348267: Manslaughter

I moved the topic to Q3882220, to allow linking to it from the English wikipedia (which you reverted). But I see no point having Q1348267 as a competing site for the German word only, not allowing links to other languages.--Renerpho (talk) 07:18, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

@Renerpho: manslaughter (Germany) (Q1348267) refers to a type of crime in Germany, so it cannot be included in an item dealing with the crime in general. They deal about two different subjects: one particular, and the other general, hence they need to remain separated. If you read the statements, manslaughter (Germany) (Q1348267) already appears as a subclass of manslaughter (Q3882220) Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 07:31, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

I see. What needs to be done so that one of the German pages https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totschlag or https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totschlag_(Deutschland) have a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter (like all the other languages)?--Renerpho (talk) 10:44, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Urea cycle, Q595994

Hi Andreasmperu, I see you keep adding the whole chemical reaction equation to the description of Q595994. Please keep in mind the guideline Help:Description: Descriptions are not full sentences, but small bits of information. In most cases, the proper length is between two and twelve words. One-word descriptions are almost always too ambiguous, and should be avoided. If the description goes onto a second line it is probably too long, and if it goes onto a third line, it is almost definitely too long. Thanks Csigabi (talk) 06:58, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Please disregard this message, I have just realized it was not you but user:ProteinBoxBot. Csigabi (talk) 07:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

@Csigabi: Could you please inform the bot owner about this? It seems to be a recurrent problem, on top of constantly adding redundant information. Regards, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:46, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

@ProteinBoxBot:, @Andrawaag: sure. Csigabi (talk) 07:30, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

you edits on abelian group (Q181296)

hello, you removed many subclass-claims from abelian group (Q181296), but not all of them were redundant. in particular commutative semigroup (Q27672715). i made a bit of a mess myself, i shouldn't have restored the claim about loop (Q3836720). but i'm working on fixing it. i'm not sure what Dedekind group's are, though. the english wikipedia article is contradictory. --opensofias (talk) 10:02, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

P3095

check the property: it's not limited to religions

• type of agents that study this subject or work in this profession
• Personen, die diesen Beruf, diese Religion oder diese Aktivität praktizieren
• personas que practican esta religión, actividad o profesión
• type de personne exerçant une religion, une activité ou une profession
• tipo di agenti che studiano questa religione, attività o opera in questa professione
• название адептов религии или учения

Your suggestions how to change descriptions? d1g (talk) 22:57, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Only the Russian description is limited to religions. Spanish, German, and French include specifically activities, and the English one doesn't even mention religion. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 23:00, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

removals at Q149086

edit comment has nothing to do with removed statements:

1. act of killing was mentioned in 1752 BCE
2. first act of killing is unknown

d1g (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Saludos / ayuda

Gracias por tu mensaje. Mi pregunta tiene que ver con las referencias. He tratado de incluirlas, pero sin éxito. Es bastante confuso porque a menos que aparezca en la página, no deja introducir las fuentes.GinnevraDubois (talk) 16:43, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

@GinnevraDubois: Hola! ¿Puedes darme un ejemplo? La página de ayuda sobre fuentes puede ser una buena introducción. Wikidata:Showcase items muestra elementos bastante completos, por lo que pueden ilustrar sobre el uso de referencias. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 05:26, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Sí, me parece que ese artículo puede servirme. Yo añadí algunos datos biográficos tomados de la revista del siglo XIX, La Ilustración Española y Americana (antes llamada el Museo Universal) pero cuando trataba de referenciarla me decía que no podía. Me parece que el artículo está diciendo que las revistas deben estar en wikidata, ¿no? GinnevraDubois (talk) 15:32, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

La Ilustración Española y Americana (Q6419450) y El Museo Universal (Q17351152)? Sí, en el caso que mencionas, es necesario que la referencia exista en Wikidata para poder añadirla. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 20:56, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

• Andreasm, I just want to sort items between Q907112 and Q3537754. --Manosicura (talk) 20:12, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

How often do you join discussions at talk pages?

Recovering item before being emptied for no reason

Don't skip discussion: Talk:Q15619176! d1g (talk) 19:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:37, 25 September 2017

Latest revision as of 17:00, 26 September 2017

@Andreasmperu: discussions are not optional!

Other users have no problems to access Talk:Q15619176 and Talk:Q7184903. d1g (talk) 17:07, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

P279 edits

edit

⟨ set (Q36161)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ mathematical object (Q246672)    ⟩

was specified already.

Your edit is absolutely useless and cannot be explained by any Wikidata agreement.

This isn't first time you make such edits exactly after I visit items. d1g (talk) 18:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

more edits without discussion

product at Wikidata has nothing to do with schema.org

edit

Ignored talk page: Talk:Q2424752? d1g (talk) 18:27, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

"Stop trying to force your point of view. "straight line" is not used, but line"

edit

@Andreasmperu:

1. who argues that it should be "line or straight line" over "straight line or line"?
2. who removed curve generalization of line? "Thus, a curve is a generalization of a line, in that curvature is not necessarily zero."
3. who removed curvature property with deprecated rank?

What a mess. d1g (talk) 10:31, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Q154242

You have all time in the world to quote any philosopher ever lived and who defined nothing as empty set.

edit

d1g (talk) 17:39, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

removed claims have nothing to do with edit comments

• 1 Not in cabin?
• 2 Not because of driving category?

d1g (talk) 08:18, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

removed claims have nothing to do with edit comments

Do you objects 18 century stagecoach (Q339249)?

This is what every wiki says.

edit d1g (talk) 08:30, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Concerning data items Q8253850 and Q268416.

Please compare the German articles for these two data items, I quite believe that these are on the same subject (one with the French name for the subject, and the other with the German name) and should be merged, hence why I made the edits to these pages. John Gordon Reid (talk) 09:13, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Q82650 not a service

Make sure you do at least 1 search before you make edits.

This would make you look more competent and friendly. d1g (talk) 09:45, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@D1gggg: you were just blocked for a week for intimidating behaviour/harassment. This is your last and only warning, your next block will be much longer. Multichill (talk) 11:17, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Please join Talk:Q82650

d1g (talk) 11:34, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Culpable homicide

Good day Andreasmperu. Today I noticed you reverted these edits, which I think is unwarranted. First of, notice how these interwiki's were made on September 12, 2014 by a Dutch person (most likely because they all had 'culp- in their name). In common law, however, criminal culpa(bility) has another connotation than in civil/continental law. Culpability in common law being the mental state of the defendant when committing the crime, be it purposely, knowingly, recklessly or negligently. In civil/continental law culpa is an unintentional wrong, equivalent to the common law notion of negligence. It is contrasted by dolus, which is intentionally, purposely. Thus, the Brazilian criminal code states that a culpable crime is one committed by carelessness, negligence or incompetence. Likewise the Italian penal code defines a culpable crime as one contrary to intent, and because of carelessness, imprudence, incompetence, or failure to observe laws. In Dutch criminal law culpa (schuld) is similarly defined as a lack of diligence, or a failure to foresee. Hence, dood door schuld, homicídio culposo, omicidio colposo are defined as causing the death of another person through culpa. Their common law equivalent would be negligent homicide, not culpable homicide (which as has been shown, can also encompasses intentional homicide, for example in Canada, India and also Scots law). Incidently, the German's seen to have done it right at their first try by linking the equivalent crime (fahrlässige Tötung) to negligent homicide. Hence, because you've seen to have acted out of a mistaken believe of fact, I've reverted your actions and restored my original version. Best regards, Perudotes (talk) 12:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Un pedido

¡Qué alivio, una administradora que habla en español!

Hola, te quería hacer un pedido, porque no tengo la menor idea cuál es el lugar correcto para hacerlo: ¿podrás fusionar el elemento Q7173391 en el elemento Q29583266? Se refieren a la misma persona.

Desde ya, muchas gracias, y que pases un hermoso domingo. --Marcelo (talk) 02:06, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marcelo: No es necesario un administrador para realizar fusiones. Puedes revisar cómo hacerlo aquí (hay una herramienta que puedes activar en las preferencias). Aquí estoy para cualquier consulta, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:59, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Muchas gracias, ya seleccioné la herramienta. Veremos cómo me va usándola. Un gran saludo, --Marcelo (talk) 14:48, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

tax evasion (Q6502151) vs tax fraud (Q3806932) vs tax avoidance (Q329303)

Hi Andreasmperu,

About your modifications in tax evasion (Q6502151), in French of France:

• « fr:évasion fiscale » or « évitement fiscal » is at the juncture between:
  • « fr:optimisation fiscale » which is legal
  • « fr:fraude fiscale » which is illegal

See [13]

It doesn't seem like es:evasión fiscal is the same as fr:évasion fiscale. From what I understand, it seems like fr:fraude fiscale, which is the same as en:tax evasion or de:Steuerdelikt.

And es:elusión fiscal is the same as fr:optimisation fiscale.

But is there a similar concept to fr:évasion fiscale in Spanish? If so, a Wikidata element can be created.

However, tax evasion (Q6502151) and tax fraud (Q3806932) seem to need to be merged. The RedBurn (ϕ) 11:07, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Persona

You reverted here. Do you understand that in English the word "persona" is distinct from "person"? It refers to a concept akin to a recurring stage role, character, or (usually) pseudonymous personality. "Mark Twain" was the pseudonym of a cranky folk philosopher and author, a persona created by Samuel Clemens. Jerry Seinfeld was a TV persona similar to but distinct from the comic actor of the same name. "Doctor Watson" was a persona for Arthur Conan Doyle who was credited within the text of the Sherlock Holmes stories as the person who recorded those accounts, even though Doyle used his own name on the covers. LeadSongDog (talk) 17:14, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Please stop removing occupation painter from people items

Hello I noticed you have been removing occupation=painter from people items and replacing this with "portrait painter". Please stop. We track all painters at Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings and we do not track sub-occupations. We use genre on painter items to show whether they painted portraiture, landscape and so forth. Jane023 (talk) 18:24, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jane023: here I support Adreas. There is no need in keeping all parent occupations (painter, artist, mental worker and so on) when there is more precise e.g. "portrait painter". Why can't you use subclasses of painters in your project? --Infovarius (talk) 14:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

THere is no need to remove them either. A portrait painter who makes landscapes is a painter, not a landscape painter and a portrait painter. It just doesn't work that way. Jane023 (talk) 20:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Cambios recientes

Hola Andrea:

Me dirijo a ti porque quisiera saber si puedes orientarme con la actualización de los cambios recientes. Ahora están unos filtros que ayudan a revisar los ediciones de manera más facil, pero el problema que yo tengo es que las ediciones que más reviso son las anónimas, y al intentar verlas no logro hacerlo. Presiono IP contribs y borro todos los filtros, pero aun así no se muestran las ediciones de IPs. ¿Sabes cómo hacerlo? Saludos, Bambadee (talk) 17:04, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Notificación de traducción: Wikidata:Wikidata in Wikimedia projects

Hola, Andreasmperu:

Has recibido esta notificación porque te inscribiste como traductora de español y francés en Wikidata. La página Wikidata:Wikidata in Wikimedia projects está disponible para su traducción. Puedes traducirla aquí:

• traducir al español
• traducir al francés

La prioridad de esta página es media.

Agradecemos enormemente tu ayuda. Traductores como tú hacen que Wikidata funcione como una verdadera comunidad multilingüe.

Puedes cambiar tus preferencias de notificación.

¡Gracias!

Los coordinadores de traducción de Wikidata‎, 12:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

publication (Q732577) put back to creative work

At least for the moment, I have returned Q732577 to return from work to creative work as there are some constraints that rely on creative work (see property:p3919. Are we working to a map or a public remapping that is visible, or it is a series of incremental changes? It isn't obvious what is happening.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:39, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

" good and evil (Q10797504) " and "No label defined (Q30275441) "

With respect to your reverts for Q10797504. "No label defined (Q30275441) " has the statement of "an instance of Wikimedia duplicated page (Q17362920). It is stated that Q30275441 can be merged once the necessary merges are done in other Wikimedia projects. Please check whenever you have time. --ねをなふみそね (talk) 05:12, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Q8205328

Not my best idea, I was looking a way to look for the contraint of Quebec cultural heritage directory ID (P633) and only Vrai portrait de Marguerite Bourgeoys (Q18573944) was all fault. Il finally decided to add artificial physical object (Q8205328) to painting (Q3305213), since I am pretty sure all paintings are physical, and I am not sure about visual artwork (Q4502142). --Fralambert (talk) 21:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Paired and unpaired organs

Hello Andreasmperu, Have you seen Wikidata:Project chat#Paired and unpaired organs? Do not want to join the discussion? --Fractaler (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

If you are an expert in biology, why are you refusing to participate in the topic that you touched on your administrative activities and indicate what was wrong? --Fractaler (talk) 07:52, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect change to statement

Your change to Panzer IIIJ L/60 (Q42302079) is incorrect. The source specifically states that the capacity of the vehicle is "Crew: 5", not 'can carry 5 humans'. In fact this and other tanks can carry many humans in addition to their crew members (those humans who are part of the crew which operates the vehicle). Thus your change of property maximum capacity (P1083) from '5 Q41302258' to '5 human (Q5)' misrepresents the claim made by the referenced sources. Since you have also deleted Q41302258 inappropriately (it does not qualify for deletion for notability since it meets notability under condition 3 ("It fulfills some structural need, for example: it is needed to make statements made in other items more useful."). Please restore the crew member item and fix the claims that were incorrectly changed after its deletion. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 03:35, 6 November 2017 (UTC) FYI... Q41302258 used to have label 'crew member'. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 03:36, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Andreasmperu, how do you think, the crew is consists of crew members or not? Why do you delete items that are used by internal and external users, without discussion? Why do you consistently violate their rights? See please Wikidata:Project chat#Deleting item without discussion/Wikidata:Project chat#Rights of item and rights of item's creator --Fractaler (talk) 15:05, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: Thanks for letting me know. I have changed all values to crew (Q345844), which is the item most widely used for this kind of cases. I've also changed maximum capacity (P1083) to include subclasses of vehicle (Q42889) because it was conceived only for subclasses of architectural structure (Q811979). Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 21:45, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for making that change, as indeed, capacity is not a property limited to structures. I'm not sure that crew (Q345844) is sufficient since a crew is a group of individuals, and crew members are the individuals within the group. I'm not sure that it would be strictly accurate to say a vehicle has say '4 crew' when you really mean '4 crew members'. Most vehicles have a capacity of '1 crew' of 'X crew members'. Thoughts? Josh Baumgartner (talk) 23:59, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

stencil (Q504073)

Can you explain why the description of the item was deleted? --Fractaler (talk) 14:47, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Please read WD:D. I've seen that you tend to ignore this convention too. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 21:46, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, I read it page of guidelines. And in your opinion, what exactly on this page indicates the mandatory property (compare, for example, with the Wikidata:Vandalism, should and must; also with a mandatory string length requirement of <251 character), and that it does not have a recommendatory property (optional property)?

Are you an expert on this topic? If you are and, in your opinion, it would be possible to formulate a description more correctly, why did not you do this and left the paragraph altogether without a description (which corresponds to a mandatory requirement for the length of <251 characters)? In your opinion, is this behavior worthy of an administrator? Are you going to continue to behave this way? Fractaler (talk) 07:40, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

cyclic process (Q26001387)

The set cyclic process (Q26001387) (Description: interval of space or time) is a subset of the set interval (Q185148) (description: in math, a set ...)? --Fractaler (talk) 15:28, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

As you have been told several times by other users, we do not use sets or subsets in Wikidata, but subclasses. Please stop trying to impose your point of view. Unless you have references to back up your statements, they will be treated as personal opinions. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 21:51, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Do you really think that if users think that they do not use sets or subsets, is that so? While none of the users you refer to showed the difference between subclass/subset, set/class in the Wikidata. Maybe you are more competent and able to do this? subclass of (P279): also "subset of". And what do you mean "you have references"? --Fractaler (talk) 09:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

mind (Q450)

Where by your version there is "consciousness, thinking, reasoning, perception, and judgment in humans and potentially other life forms"? --Fractaler (talk) 17:04, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

78.38.67.210

Please banned this user. Cross-wiki abuse.--Jimi Henderson (talk) 00:54, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Undoing edits

Why are you undoing my edits? I wasn't doing anything wrong, just connecting the language links of the articles that are about same subjects. The pages should be arranged by the content and the meaning of the article, not by name (the same word in different languages has different meanings). Please answer.

monostich (Q1503358)

Have you seen the discussion of this topic? --Fractaler (talk) 06:34, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

clergyman (Q3315492) and religious servant (Q4504549)

Hi! Why did you say that these two items are not the same concept? They both refer to member of clergy, i.e. person who conduct religious worship. --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 08:52, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

@BohemianRhapsody: Minister is somebody with some higher rank in a hierarchical structure, while the other one is a more general term. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:21, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Norms of administrative behavior

Andreasmperu, should the administrator participate in the discussion of the items that were used by users, if these items were deleted without discussion? How do you think? --Fractaler (talk) 06:34, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

How can we model mathematical knowledge?

I noticed you deleted "first element in an ordered couple" and "second element in an ordered couple" because of lack of notability. I think they were needed in describing how an ordered couple is composed. In general, could you motive the deletion? At the moment It seems to me we totally lack tools to describe meaning of equations and theorems. What do you suggest? --Ogoorcs (talk) 15:07, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, +: "An item is acceptable: 3) It fulfills some structural need, for example: it is needed to make statements made in other items more useful."! --Fractaler (talk) 07:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ogoorcs: It must have appeared while I was doing some clean-up tasks. Unfortunately, the creation of such items can lead to personal interpretations that are not according to common knowledge. If "first element in an ordered couple" and "second element in an ordered couple" are common terms in use, I am sure you can find references to back them as valid. Otherwise, I would suggest to try and reach out to the participants of Wikidata:WikiProject Mathematics, and look for other opinions about the need or not to represent this and the best way to do it. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:27, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu, Ogoorcs: When a tuple is denoted by (x₁, x₂, ..., x_n), x₁ is called "the first term of the n-tuple" (https://www.encyclopediaofmath.org//index.php?title=Tuple). A coupled pair is a 2-tuple (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordered_pair). How about restoring "first element in an ordered couple" and "second element in an ordered couple", and changing their name to "first term of tuple" and "second term of tuple"? I don't think they should limit the scope to 2-tuples (ordered couple).--Okkn (talk) 06:59, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

I wanted to name a variable. Also I was angry that I could not see what statements and what items you deleted, since labels were gone. It's like you are deleting my bookmarks. --Ogoorcs (talk) 00:24, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Deletions of D&F items

It seems to me that you are overdeleting some of them. For example, shouldn't there be an item for class of "natural sounds" (Q38090290?), formal language character (Q42559432?)? --Infovarius (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Just "overdeleting"? And just deleting the items that others use, without any discussion, does this mean a norm for the behavior of the administrator? --Fractaler (talk) 07:34, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

May be not, but you are too active in arguable creations to discuss for every case. Moreover I agree with Andreas at most of deletions. --Infovarius (talk) 13:31, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

@Infovarius: I've restored both of them to open a discussion about their notability. I am currently making a list of items with questionable notability, but it is probably going to take me some time. If you have any suggestions to add to that list, please let me know. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 19:40, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Wrong merge

Hi. How are you? I just saw you have reverted the merge by User:NMaia on historiography (Q50675) and historiography (Q30277550). The latter is connected to only one entry on Wikipedia, in Spanish, that is also connected to the former. Could you please justify why these itens are not the same, as it is not clear to me? Thanks. --Joalpe (talk) 09:58, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Need help merging

Q2667155 and Q12643051 are both related to the same topic and need to be merged. I don't want to break something here. Thanks in advance.--176.104.110.11 21:19, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Homicide

I see no reason why that property shouldn't be added. I don't foresee it leading to a bad habit. And I see that English isn't your native language. - Bossanoven (talk) 00:09, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Fields such as "spree killer" or "mass murderer" apply to "instance of", not to "occupation". They are not occupations because they do not employ the subject. - Bossanoven (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

A reply would be helpful. - Bossanoven (talk) 00:04, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Bossanoven: I took the time to write an edit comment on each item explaining why your edits were wrong, but you disregarded that and reverted without explanation. Do not revert again, and please read occupation (P106). Hint: it is related to the meaning of occupation (Q12737077), and not to the more specific profession (Q28640). Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:08, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Fiódor Dostoiévski (Q991)

Please leave both dates, I explained the reasons in the talk page of the item.--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 01:48, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I remember that the wikipedia.en should not be taken as absolute in wikidata.--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 01:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Your sign and Lint errors

Hi, can you change you sign from:

• [[User:Andreasmperu|<span style="color: black">Andreasm</span>]] [[User talk:Andreasmperu|<sup><span style="color: green">háblame / just talk to me</span></sup>]]: Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me}

to

• [[User:Andreasmperu|<span style="color:black">Andreasm</span>]] [[User talk:Andreasmperu|<sup><span style="color:green">háblame / just talk to me</span></sup>]]: Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me}

The effect is the same, but tag <font> is an "Obsolete HTML tags" in LintErrors --ValterVB (talk) 13:22, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done Thank you! I didn't notice that at all. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:47, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Parameter: Medical specialty (P1995)

Hi Andreasmperu, there is a problem with this parameter with mental disorders (in general). I wrote in the project chat to try to solve it, here. But I did not understand how to fix it, not even how to create a new property that contains "other specializations", where I can include "psychology" or "psychotherapy". Can you help me? If you want, you can write me on my main page on it.wiki. --Dapifer (talk) 11:37, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Here, the new discussion: Wikidata:Project chat#Infobox medical condition: medical specialty. --Dapifer (talk) 11:18, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Campo de nacionalidad

Que tal Andreas, he revertido todas las ediciones del campo "nacionalidad deportiva", ¿podrías ayudarme ahora a modificar el error que se provoca en la ficha? lo discutí con un bibliotecario de Wikipedia pero me dijo que lo mejor sería tratarlo en Wikidata. Por si no lo recuerdas, aquí dejé la explicación de lo que sucede: [14]. Un saludo. Maucg (talk) 02:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Statistics

Hello. I have seen your reverts on my recent edits. Elements I have defined as statistics are statistics --so I am not sure what you think I am getting wrong. Just to provide an example: Look at the first sentence of w:margin of error, that according to you I have wrongly identified as being a statistic. Could you please provide some clarification? Thanks. --Joalpe (talk) 03:40, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Please read statistics (Q12483), the item you have been wrongly linking. I have just added a description in Portuguese. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:45, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks for replying. Should I then create a new term for "statistic" that refers to the instance of a statistical concept (just like what is on the dictionary)? Sorry for undoing your last edit --I had not see your reply here, as you didn't ping me. --Joalpe (talk) 04:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

If I recalled correctly such item already exists. However, some of your edits are not an instance of an statistic. For instance, histogram (Q185020) is rather a subclass of statistical graphics (Q3427422). Maybe Help:Basic membership properties might be of help. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 04:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Hola, acabo de ver que es hispanohablante, así que cambio de idioma (para el portuñol), si no te importas. Creo que estás enganada sobre el histograma. Es verdad que es una representación gráfica, pero como se puede describir numericamente el histograma es también un concepto de agregación y computación de datos, una estadística. Mira por ejemplo la definición formal aqui. Para una referencia mas directa: "In short, the histogram is a statistic collection keeping the occurency count . . ."[15]. Ahora voy a dormir, pero si quieres seguimos la discusión. No me gustaría editar de nuevo esas --que te digo, a mi importan mucho, pues son entradas que trabaje en un programa de educación que coordene-- antes que hagamos llegado a un consenso. Gracias por tu ayuda y trabajo. --Joalpe (talk) 04:30, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edits

Do you understand Alemannic? Could you really review the content of our articles? Or could you explain me what is the difference between eläktromagnetischi Strahlig and eläktromagnetischi Wälle? --Holder (talk) 03:43, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Andreasmperu. If you can't explain your revert I will restore my edits. Best regards. --Holder (talk) 17:27, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

wave (Q37172) = radiation (Q18335)? No, so there’s your answer. If you want to know more, just read the statements included on each item. Also, it wouldn’t hurt to be polite. Luckily, Alemannic is close enough to German to understand it, so yes, I could tell the difference because I took the time to actually check it. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 17:58, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

No, Welle isn't equal to Strahlung, but that's some thing different. Elektromagenetische Welle is equal to elektromagnetische Strahlung, have a look here: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elektromagnetische_Strahlung&redirect=no

Also, have a look at that first sentences in the German article:

Als elektromagnetische Welle bezeichnet man eine Welle aus gekoppelten elektrischen und magnetischen Feldern. Beispiele für elektromagnetische Wellen (auch als elektromagnetische Strahlung oder kürzer Strahlung bezeichnet) sind Radiowellen, Mikrowellen, Wärmestrahlung, Licht, Röntgenstrahlung und Gammastrahlung. Elektromagnetische Wellen im Vakuum sind Transversalwellen. Die Wechselwirkung elektromagnetischer Wellen mit Materie hängt von ihrer Frequenz ab, die über viele Größenordnungen variieren kann.

I think it's really ridiculous to link the article de:Elektromagnetische Welle to en:electromagnetic wave (as you did) which is a redirect to en:electromagentic radiation. So please let the native speakers decide which article is correct to be linked to. --Holder (talk) 18:30, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

@Holder:, I would advocate Andreas. These 2 items describe similar but not the same topics and it is better to have de:Elektromagnetische Welle and en:electromagnetic wave together in one item for this sake. For the sake of interwikis we use redirects (en:electromagnetic wave to get from the article de:Elektromagnetische Welle to the article en:Electromagnetic radiation and de:Elektromagnetische Strahlung to get from the article en:Electromagnetic radiation to the article de:Elektromagnetische Welle). --Infovarius (talk) 12:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Q42406

hello, why did you cancel my change, "english" is not the nationality? --Camulogene77 (talk) 09:23, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Have you checked the other statements already in use in English people (Q42406)? Also, have you checked the definition of nationality (Q231002)? English people (Q42406) refers to a specific group of people not to a relation (Q930933). That is the reason. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:41, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

culture of an area (Q19958368)

In 2016 such items were ok, right? --Fractaler (talk) 13:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Sobre la novel·la "No em deixis mai"

No estic d'acord en convertir una novel·la en un llibre com a qualificador. A la Viquipèdia anglesa, l'espanyola i la francesa "No em deixis mai" és qualificat com novel·la. Jo l'he llegit i realment és una novel·la.--Konkordia (talk) 19:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

@Konkordia: I am sorry, but I have no idea what language you are using. You can check on my user page the languages I can understand. Please try one of them. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:30, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Simone de Bauvoir/militante politique

Excuse me, I thought I was on the Simone de Beauvoir's page--Pa2chant. (talk) 02:43, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Q33197000?

What was the content/history of this? I had it on my watchlist, but don't know why I did. Sadads (talk) 02:29, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

It was an unlinked item. Label: "ice storage tank", description: "stores ice frozen by cheaper energy at night to meet peak daytime demand for cooling". Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 02:33, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Could you restore that? I can reference it/connect it. They are an important new technology for Sustainable energy, Sadads (talk) 03:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

ice storage tank (Q33197000) Sure, but please either add references to identify it or show that it is needed for structural purposes. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:23, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Added :D Sadads (talk) 03:55, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Sadads, thanks: Andreasmperu is afraid of losing in game (Q11410) (game theory (Q44455)) with me, so she chose the tactic of silence and it was her fault: the lack of an answer to the question is already a loss, this shows all observers for this game that the player (Q4197743) has nothing to answer the question (as ply (Q1365530)) --Fractaler (talk) 09:19, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Ad=pre+post

Andrea(s?), why did you separate adposition (Q44126895) from adposition (Q134316)? I think they are the same. --Infovarius (talk) 20:48, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Professors

Currently there are two items, that per item descriptions are pretty much the same (i.e. the highest academic rank). As per two different English language articles however the difference is as follows: 1) Q121594 is of professor sensu lato. i.e. it deals with different associated meanings of a word, and 2) Q25339110 is of professor sensu stricto, i.e. the highest academic rank in a university, a full professor. I checked all links that I moved, they are specifically about full professor. Which of these, that you reverted, is "not the same"? 90.191.76.154 21:51, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Hola

Qué pasó? SaryMusicTv (talk) 05:38, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

first-order class (Q21522908)

Why do not you delete such items as first-order class (Q21522908) without any discussion, although they do not correspond to Wikidata:Notability? Fractaler (talk) 08:08, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

About items deleted by you without any discussion

Please, look at this page before your intervention and after. What conclusions? Now will you return my item "unit"? Or will I need to disturb administrators about this fact? --Fractaler (talk) 08:54, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

None of the items in Wikidata belong to anybody. If you care so much about "your" items, you would be looking for references and adding them to ensure they are not deleted because of their lack of notability. It seems that rather than fruitful collaboration, you are more worried about your ego, which would explain your perception of having items that you somehow own, or why you are so keen on trying to impose your mindset (who nobody else seems to share, by the way). I am afraid annoying users in multiple pages with non-sense and endless discussions can only be understood as aiming to boycott this project. That behaviour is only going to lead to you being blocked from editing here, but that block won't be coming from me. So please stop wasting other users' time. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:29, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Wow! Just wow! It looks like the format "Or will I need to disturb administrators about this fact?" helps to establish feedback! Great, then we should take advantage of this. So, 1) are you going to answer the questions you were asked before? Do I need to use the format at the end of the sentence (like ("Or will I need to disturb administrators about this fact?")) that is still valid for you? --Fractaler (talk) 07:09, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

About labels

I see you have reverted my edition on municipality of Brazil (Q3184121) (I changed the ca label from "municipi del Brasil" to "municipi"), arguing "labels should be the most common name to recognise the item". I don't think so, it's the pair label+description what must make us recognize the item. From Help:Label: "The label is the most common name that the item would be known by", "labels can be ambiguous" and "labels should reflect common usage". And 99% of time we mention Brazil municipalities in Catalan we use "municipi". Also, any tool accessing Wikidata and displaying a type of administrative division will probably get and display the name of the country or superior administrative division as well. Most uses will require "municipi", if they want no ambiguity they know they have to display the description.--Ssola (talk) 08:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Another way to look at it: "municipi" has specific meanings when we're speaking about municipalities in different countries. Each meaning is a different concept under the same name, so it has it's seperate Wikidata item.--Ssola (talk) 06:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

That is incorrect. municipality (Q15284), municipio (Q1763214), and all similar general items are the only ones that have a label exclusively with the common name. The rest of country-specific items need to include the country name to constitute a different entity. And yes, that is the most common name: in the press and official documents, the term is not used by itself, but specific to a certain area, unless the subject is general to all municipalities. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 18:19, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

I know my position may seem wrong at first, because of the big number of corrections needed (I think the situation is the same in every language), but please take a moment to consider it. In your response, the first 3 sentences simply state your position. Your only argument is that the term is not used by itself in the press and official documents. Consider the law on the territorial division of Brazil of 1938, it's talking about municipality of Brazil (Q3184121), the word "município" is used 10 times and "município do Brasil" isn't used. Looking to the press, the 1st result when googling "best municipalities of Brazil" (you can't say I'm biased here) is this. "Municipality" is used 9 times and "municipality of Brazil" isn't used. You could argue that the article is refering to municipality (Q15284) located in Brazil, but this is also true 100% of the time when "municipality of Brazil" is used, so you can't really make a distinction with this observation. My only conclusion is that the term is used by itself in the press and official documents. It's the context what helps us to determine what it is, just like with any other item with colliding labels in Wikidata. Therefore, it's label in Wikidata, according to Help:Label, should be "municipi" in Catalan, "municipality" in English, etc..--Ssola (talk) 19:28, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

I've read the previous discussions in this talk page and Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2016/01#Labels:_A_general_term_vs._a_specific_one and Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2016/03#Names_of_types_of_county_subdivisions. The last comment of Zolo in the later wasn't replied, so the issue cannot be regarded as closed. An important observation is that the pertinent label will always depend on the context. If the context requires disambiguating the country, "municipi del Brasil" is appropriate, but we cannot assume that some disambiguation will be necessary for all products extracting data from Wikidata. That's why we label mouse (Q7987) "mouse", although "computer mouse" could be useful in a list of things found in my old basement. I understand that the country complement is useful when navigating wikidata.org, but it is not for most contexts, and the purpose of Wikidata is not being read. --Ssola (talk) 18:58, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Reverts

Hi Andrea, I do admit that a couple of false edits slipped into the batch edit I did yesterday but I fail to see why Q2559720 or Q36873011 aren't book publishing companies. --Rabenkind (talk) 07:41, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

@Rabenkind: Have you read the articles before asking me? Iskra (Q36873011) is a newspaper (Q11032), so nothing to do with books. As for Wenwu Chubanshe (Q2559720), it doesn't publish only books, but also periodical (Q1002697), so publisher (Q2085381) was the best option. If I managed to find those errors in just a quick look, I'm afraid it's likely that you incur in more during your mass addition of book publisher (Q1320047). It wasn't a couple of wrong edits, but many more, so please double check your edits and be more careful in the future, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 18:12, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Apparently you haven't understood the article or your look was a little too quick, otherwise you would have noticed that the publisher Iskra (Q36873011) didn't only print newspapers but also quite an amount of books. That makes it obviously just as Wenwu Chubanshe (Q2559720) a book publishing company. Lets see if you can handle your own mistakes as well as you are in blaming others for making them. But I'm afraid you are not judging your talk page. So please be more careful in the future. --Rabenkind (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Well I guess ignorance is a blessing. Get informed: en:Comic book You may also consider the fact that de:Kategorie:Comicverlag (Deutschland) is a sub category of de:Kategorie:Buchverlag (Deutschland) --Rabenkind (talk) 20:28, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

A comic book is just one format of comics. You can check a few more in en:Category:Comics formats, and not all of them are books. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 20:31, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

So please let me take part in your knowledge what format those publishers printed which are not books. --Rabenkind (talk) 20:36, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Could you tell what labels of the items from your serial deletion of items without any notice and discussion, please? --Fractaler (talk) 09:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Could you please pay attention to all of your creations that are still undeleted? It has been over two months already, and you have not made any improvements to assert their notability, even though you were continuously asked to add references. Any item which does not abide to Wikidata notability policy can be deleted at any time. You have been warned, so stop wasting other editors' time with your non-sense, and fix your mess. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 23:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

your creations: very strangely, because before you said: "None of the items in Wikidata belong to anybody".

You never answer the question I ask, because you are afraid to lose? Maybe I'm bad at formulating in English? Do I have to try to repeat in Spanish? --Fractaler (talk) 06:28, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Andreasmperu doesn't want to spend time arguing and given how things progress I don't blame him. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 16:06, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

No, she understood that she would have to answer for what she did and was afraid of responsibility. Only courageous people can take responsibility for their actions and admit their mistakes. And to a person who does not have feedback, one can not trust power. There is a lot of evidence in history. --Fractaler (talk) 18:24, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Two-player (classical) chess

How do you think, "chess" is two-player chess, classical chess" (two-player game (Q7858742)), "three-player chess (Q933844)" (three-player game), four-player chess (Q690264) (four-player game)), other? --Fractaler (talk) 14:14, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Plays by Molière

Hello colleague, the items of the substituted works were duplicated in wikidata; In discussion of each item I have put the corresponding located that has links to other wikis and I have added VIAF references. Cordial greetings --Smatxi (talk) 19:48, 1 November 2018 (UTC)smatxi